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Ex-SC Gov. Sanford back in political office

Essentially what you've said is that:

1. I'm partisan for calling out a politician for misappropriating public funds, regardless of his lean

and

2. also calling out the irrelevancy of bringing up a guy who was sent to jail for engaging in something the entire US population does.

If that's partisan, I'll take it before I take false comparisons.

You might start by getting your facts straight.

By Philip Rucker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 3, 2009

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford did not improperly use state money to pay for trips to New York and South America to see his Argentine mistress, state law enforcement officials concluded yesterday, as the governor reiterated that he has no plans to step down despite mounting pressure to do so.

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division reviewed Sanford's travel records and "found absolutely no misuse of funds," agency director Reggie Lloyd said in an interview. Sanford (R), who is spending the holiday weekend in Florida with his wife and their four sons, released 44 pages of personal and official travel records and credit card statements yesterday showing that he did not use public money in connection with his extramarital affair.

He reimbursed the state $3,304 this week for part of an official state-sponsored trip to Brazil and Argentina in June 2008 during which he spent time with his mistress, Maria Belén Chapur, said Sanford's spokesman, Joel Sawyer. :cool:
 
Essentially what you've said is that:

2. also calling out the irrelevancy of bringing up a guy who was sent to jail for engaging in something the entire US population does.

If that's partisan, I'll take it before I take false comparisons.

Your point was not that it was something the entire population does, but rather that it was too long ago to be relevant. I merely pointed out that Barry is still in office. You'll do better if you learn the facts of the matter before you post.:cool:
 
Ex-SC Gov. Sanford back in political office

Former Republican South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford revived a scandal-scarred political career by winning back his old congressional seat Tuesday in a district that hasn't elected a Democrat in three decades.

The comeback was complete when he defeated Democrat Elizabeth Colbert Busch, the sister of political satirist Stephen Colbert. With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, Sanford had 54 percent of the vote.​

too ****in funny to see this level of partisan blindness.


We have seen it in both parties, remember D.C. mayor Berry. I seen it down here with McKinney. For a lot of people it is all about the D and the R. Not the person or candidate. There are districts here in Georgia, both Democratic and Republican where you could run Charles Manson on one ticket against Mother Teresa and Manson would win if he had the right D or R depending on the district.

In this case to beat Sanford in a district so full of Republicans the Democrats would have had to run a very conservative Democrat and they are far and few in-between. Then too, no conservative Democrat could win a primary among Democrats.
 
By Philip Rucker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 3, 2009

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford did not improperly use state money to pay for trips to New York and South America to see his Argentine mistress, state law enforcement officials concluded yesterday, as the governor reiterated that he has no plans to step down despite mounting pressure to do so.

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division reviewed Sanford's travel records and "found absolutely no misuse of funds," agency director Reggie Lloyd said in an interview. Sanford (R), who is spending the holiday weekend in Florida with his wife and their four sons, released 44 pages of personal and official travel records and credit card statements yesterday showing that he did not use public money in connection with his extramarital affair.

He reimbursed the state $3,304 this week for part of an official state-sponsored trip to Brazil and Argentina in June 2008 during which he spent time with his mistress, Maria Belén Chapur, said Sanford's spokesman, Joel Sawyer. :cool:

That's the important part. Regardless of how you view it, he was on tax payer money spending time with his mistress. If any of the people at my company did this, they'd be fired without much ado.
 
There is no denying that most adult Americans found it extremely offensive that the Liberals would find electability comfort and reassurance in the fact of a pop culture comedy name.
 
Your point was not that it was something the entire population does, but rather that it was too long ago to be relevant. I merely pointed out that Barry is still in office. You'll do better if you learn the facts of the matter before you post.:cool:

Yes, Barry is still in office, and what? He smoked crack 21 years ago, what you're saying is that smoking crack compares to misappropriating/misuse of public funds. :shrug:
 
That's the important part. Regardless of how you view it, he was on tax payer money spending time with his mistress. If any of the people at my company did this, they'd be fired without much ado.

This happens all the time in state, local and federal government. When an official combines personal travel with official travel, he/she reimburses for the personal expenses. It's common practice. Happens in the private sector too.:cool:
 
Yes, Barry is still in office, and what? He smoked crack 21 years ago, what you're saying is that smoking crack compares to misappropriating/misuse of public funds. :shrug:

I never said anything about smoking crack. You, and you alone, brought that up.:cool:
 
This happens all the time in state, local and federal government. When an official combines personal travel with official travel, he/she reimburses for the personal expenses. It's common practice. Happens in the private sector too.:cool:

You've either never worked for government or you've never worked for a private company. So I'll figure you don't have access to a company credit card of any sort. He didn't reimburse it out of his own good will. He did it after he was called out on spending tax payer money to fund his flings. Good luck justifying that with any HR office.
 
I never said anything about smoking crack. You, and you alone, brought that up.:cool:

It's been discussed earlier in the thread. Try and keep up.
 
I never said anything about smoking crack. You, and you alone, brought that up.:cool:

Do you have any predictions about how long it will be before that freak Sanford flies off to another mistress-cum-soul-mate in a foriegn land, while talking about family values.

Isn't this the quintessence of conservatism?
 
You've either never worked for government or you've never worked for a private company. So I'll figure you don't have access to a company credit card of any sort. He didn't reimburse it out of his own good will. He did it after he was called out on spending tax payer money to fund his flings. Good luck justifying that with any HR office.

I spent nearly 34 years with the federal government, retiring in 2009. Since then I've worked for a large defense contractor and now a small consulting company. Used a government card and used a company card. Procedures are roughly the same. It's not a problem.:cool:
 
I spent nearly 34 years with the federal government, retiring in 2009. Since then I've worked for a large defense contractor and now a small consulting company. Used a government card and used a company card. Procedures are roughly the same. It's not a problem.:cool:

Seems it was for Sanford. ;)
 
Do you have any predictions about how long it will be before that freak Sanford flies off to another mistress-cum-soul-mate in a foriegn land, while talking about family values.

Isn't this the quintessence of conservatism?

sandals?...........both parties are good at that, including yours.


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Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.

Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.

DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.

Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.

Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.

James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.

Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.

Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..

Eliot Spitzer- Democrat - New York governor - resigned from office after being tied to a prostitution ring.

Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.

Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.

Melvin Jay Reynolds - Democrat U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.

Wayne Bryant - Democrat NJ state senator- was convicted was found guilty on all 12 counts against him including bribery and pension fraud.

Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.

George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.

Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.

John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator.

Otto Kerner - Democrat governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968 was jailed after the manager of two horse-racing tracks admitted to bribing the then- governor; charges were filed after Kerner left office he was convicted in 1973.

Dan Walker - Democrat governor of Illinois from1973 to 1977 served less than two years of a seven-year sentence for receiving improper loans a decade after leaving office.

Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.

Hiram Monserrate- Queens City Councilman and state Senator-elect - who has claimed to be an advocate of victims of domestic violence - was arrested for breaking a glass over his girlfriend's face. Monserrate, 41, a former cop, won election to the state Senate as a Democrat in November 2008.

James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.

Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.

Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.

Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison

Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.

John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison

Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.

Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.

Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.

Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.

Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.

Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.

Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.

Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.

Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.

Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.

David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.

Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.

Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.

Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.

Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.

Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.

James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.

John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.

Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.

David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
 
Do you have any predictions about how long it will be before that freak Sanford flies off to another mistress-cum-soul-mate in a foriegn land, while talking about family values.

Isn't this the quintessence of conservatism?

Not being a conservative, I won't try to define the "quintessence" of conservatism. As for Sanford's future sexual behavior, that is his business and his business alone. :peace
 
I know no one who cared about the infidelity. On the whole he did a reasonably good job as POTUS, and I'm uninterested in his private sexual adventures. Perjury committed by the Commander in Chief had an exceptionally corrosive effect on morale and discipline in the federal chain of command. It was a struggle to explain to younger officers why it was that their ultimate commander was someone who would have been judged unfit for service among them.:cool:

Interesting, I would have gone with telling them the President received due process, which all Americans, even the President, are entitled to and the House Judiciary Committee voted for him to be tried in the Senate (that is what impeachment means) on the charges of grand jury perjury, civil suit perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power, and he was acquitted of all charges by the Senate.

As far as I know, being charged with a crime, tried, and acquitted would not prohibit military service, nor would any civil contempt findings.

Maybe you should have struggled to know the truth, then you would not have found it such a struggle to explain it.
 
Ex-SC Gov. Sanford back in political office

Former Republican South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford revived a scandal-scarred political career by winning back his old congressional seat Tuesday in a district that hasn't elected a Democrat in three decades.

The comeback was complete when he defeated Democrat Elizabeth Colbert Busch, the sister of political satirist Stephen Colbert. With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, Sanford had 54 percent of the vote.​

too ****in funny to see this level of partisan blindness.

I haven't followed the race much, but sometimes an electorate can get played. Just look at old man Barry from DC
 
Interesting, I would have gone with telling them the President received due process, which all Americans, even the President, are entitled to and the House Judiciary Committee voted for him to be tried in the Senate (that is what impeachment means) on the charges of grand jury perjury, civil suit perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power, and he was acquitted of all charges by the Senate.

As far as I know, being charged with a crime, tried, and acquitted would not prohibit military service, nor would any civil contempt findings.

Maybe you should have struggled to know the truth, then you would not have found it such a struggle to explain it.

No one doubted that he was guilty of perjury, and the fact that he was the single individual in the entire US population eligible for the Presidential impeachment process did not do anything for the principle of equality before the law. The conclusion was that a rigged process gave him an outcome that no one else could have had.:cool:
 
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I suppose the districts that always elect Democrats bother you just as much?

As I stated many many many pages ago in this thread, the one that kept electing Marion Berry sure did.
 
oooohh...good one.

Well obviously THIS RACE and the up and comming 2014 races.

No, you guys are not getting the House back, not after electing a incompetent and his lying bitch Secretary of State.

Oh but it's " Budget Cuts " ......wrong, its a ideology thats immersed in corruptuon lies and blame.

Hey, I just heard retailers are cutting hours ata a rate not seen in 30 hours. That directly translates to pain for the middle class and its because you people elected a dumb ass.

Good job, did you ever think you would be complicit in the perpetual misery of millionz of people ?

So no, you can't back up your claim of "Democrats in local races are paying for it". That's plural. And counting future races that you will probably forsee as well as you did last year doesn't work.
 
sandals?...........both parties are good at that, including yours..

Pssst: which party claims to be the party of "family values" and thus politicize their personal life and condemns the personal lives of other Americans?

Answer that, and the rest of your post is irrelevant.

I don't care if the tea party freaks in government take on Argentine mistresses. I do care if they promote policies about family values that involve condemning single mothers and gays and others who don't follow the hypocritical verbiage of freaks like Sanford.
 
Just like the ol' Mayor of DC Marion Barry, right?

so that makes number 3 repeating the same exact thing that's been addressed in this thread already.
 
I bet Sanford celebrates his win by booking a flight to Argentinia after breaking into his estranged wife's house to take some lingerie along.
 
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