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Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edited)

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Just because you are dancing on the backs of dead americans for your fantasy witch hunt is no reason to deny the truth of what you are doing.

Just because you find it political expedient to deny facts doesn't mean your fantasy is even close to reality.....Just Saying!
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

Neither do the Republicans who obviously care more about making
Obama look bad rather than getting some actual facts.

It's too painful for you to consider malfeasance on Obama and Hillary's part, even though it's obvious.

But you can't even be objective, because you you weigh political priority over the lives of 4 Americans and the Cover-up thats keeping their families from learning the truth.
 
Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

Why care about that at all? Instead, how about we get real answers....if they those answers dictate a trial....we give it...if not...we move on.

Republicans need to get back to the economy and fixing our debt. Those American deaths are tragic, but if this three ring circus is all we're going to get then we're disgracing their deaths and duty to our country.

At this point I would point out that 44 budgets have been sent from the republican controlled House over to the Democrat controlled Senate never to be seen or heard from again. But, that's a topic for another thread.
You must be pretty desperate if you want to talk about the economy over the Benghazi coverup.
 
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I hope these hearings tomorrow don't turn into a soap box theater....Keep the questions direct, and demand answers....Forget the speech making.

Yeah, that's what the tea party congressfreaks are going to do.

BWHAHHAHAHHAHHH!
 
Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(ed

The cover up of....what exactly?

Usually, you figure out what was actually covered up before you determine there was a cover up, no?
 
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So here's my problem with the whole Benghazi meme:

There have been dozens of different accusations made against the Administration since the moment this event was happening in real time.

The only accusations with any shred of truth are how the event was characterized.

Nothing anyone has accused the administration of indicates that any positive action would have had any likelihood of saving lives.

Monday morning quarterbacking is all fine and good, and it always possible to say that if different decisions were made a different outcome would have transpired. But if one is looking to assign actual culpability, malfeasance, or negligence, one would have to PROVE that not only were standard decision protocols not followed, but that the failure to follow them resulted in these deaths.

Too much of this meme is based on hatred of Obama and/or a desire to see a powerful political opponent crushed.

America does not want it's President to be guilty of causing American deaths, but Americans will accept evidence if he is.

The problem is that this meme is long on accusations but VERY short on any actual evidence that the administration did anything so wrong as to create culpability. Anything, and everything, less than that is just second guessing and political attacks.

These are very serious accusations that no American should WANT to be true much less be pushing them without evidence.

I know it "feels" right to people that hate Obama and they would be happy to find him guilty on general principal, but I would argue that this kind of nonsense hurts America more than it hurts Obama and people that are engaging in this witch hunt would wreck the country over political attacks. And the same people have done it before in the ten year witch hunt surrounding White Water, a land deal in which the Clinton's were ultimately the victims of fraud.

why was the deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism "locked out" of the emergency response, the decision making process, and the post attack review?

Three more officials to testify about Benghazi attacks - CBS News

why did the admin fail to convene its "top interagency counterterrorism resource," the csg, counterterrorism security group?

why was "the response process isolated at the most senior levels of the executive branch?"

why did "nsc spokesman tommy vietor [tell] cbs the csg was not needed?"

why do "counter terrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by cbs express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy but were never called upon to help?"

why was the acting mission chief for libya, certainly eager to talk, never interviewed by arb?

why wasn't a plane sent from souba, just an hour away, especially after gregory hicks, who took over for mr stevens when the ambassador died, begged for one?

Special ops halted from responding to Benghazi attacks, U.S. diplomat says - The Washington Post

why does mr hicks testify that a "fast flyer" might have made all the difference?

why did state press spokesperson victoria nuland, in order to "satisfy my building's leaders," insist on scrubbing the cia's advisory of pertinent truth?

why was the nyt so easily able to interview abu ahmed khattala, ansar al sharia militia man and, according to the gray lady, "suspected mastermind," right out in the open in that crowded downtown luxury hotel, sipping that famous frappe---in october?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

where was the fbi?

why are several dozen survivors of benghazi still being hidden from the american people?

Six months later, where are the Benghazi survivors? - CBS News

how many of them did arb talk to?

why did arb fail to question hrc, secretary of state?

would she ask them, what difference does it make?

exactly where was mrs clinton, all day and all nite, 9-11-12, and what was she doing?

why are so many foggy bottom professionals, according to cbs, coming forward to claim that they have been "marginalized, intimidated and/or subjected to threats of retaliation?"

why did obama go to bed?

ranking member of house intel, dutch ruppersberger from dark blue baltimore, the pelosi caucus' point man on all things intel, says: let's investigate, let's find out

you disagree, you already know

because you are NOT partisan

and bill clinton is a victim of...

what was the name of that failed land deal on the arkansas river, again?

what would jay carney call it?

oh yeah...

Carney: 'Benghazi Happened a Long Time Ago' | The Weekly Standard

questions are not accusations, questions are questions

now let's all listen to some answers, the only way to learn

learning is fun
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

I heard months ago that the seals were told not to defend, but I believe they tried anyway.

With that being said, how is the OP breaking news? Not to mention those outraged keep changing their reasons why.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

When the rightwing noise machine springs into action and generates a conspiracy theory, it's a sight to behold.

Too bad for them this is like the bogus Fast and Furious kerfluffle. Nobody but Fox News weirdos care.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

Hi Maggie


Type into Google " Democrats who believed Saddam had WMD " and you'll find a list of Democrats stating Saddam had WMD.

The Iraq war was a mistake, and GWB is only person responsible for declaring that war.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

The Iraq war was a mistake, and GWB is only person responsible for declaring that war.

The US has not declared war since WWII...
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

No.
Fenton nailed it. See my post. Read 'em and weep.

How does it prove there were WMDs? It just looks like a bunch of idiots making rash decisions on misinformation. Even Hillary voted to invade. It was bipartisan, but it was wrong and it was a mistake.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

Read down
further where all those quotes are put into their proper context.[/
QUOTE]

Why are you trolling through a thread on benghazzi pushing the " Bush lied Perople died " Democrat nonsense ?

This thread is about how disgusting our current administration is, not about empty untrue Democrat rhetoric.

IN CONTEXT those quotes STILL mean democrats thought he had WMD way before Bush went into Iraq.

Care to add anything about Benghazzi ? Or are you going to troll some more posting irrelevent nonsense ?

Because only demanding the truth on one of these events is hackish. Wanting answers on both means you actually have principles.
 
Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

Is FauxNews still trying to push this

the op was: CBS: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks

we all know obama's entire foreign policy, especially the closer you get to the t-word, or the j-word, or the i-word, must perforce assume full ostrich profile

but if you can't tell the difference between bob schieffer and chris son-of-60-minutes-mike wallace...

well, you must really have your head buried

We start with a story that just won't go away.

Today, there is new information raising questions about whether there was a coverup by the State Department to deflect criticism that it had ignored requests for more security for its people in Libya.

Surprisingly, this will be the first time anyone has heard publicly from Hicks and as you can see his story is totally at variance with what some American officials were saying in public on this broadcast five days after the attack.

Bob Schieffer Finally Explodes Benghazi Scandal with Darrell Issa on "Face the Nation" - YouTube
 
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fox conspiracy, right wing noise

tina brown (who just fired howie): U.S. Officials Knew Libya Attacks Were Work of Al Qaeda Affiliates - The Daily Beast

cbs: Lt Col Woods says his 16 member team pulled a month before attack - CBS News

the hill: GOP: US Consulate received repeated threats, had requested more security - The Hill's Global Affairs

wapo: White House secret meetings examine al-Qaeda threat in North Africa - The Washington Post

the hill: Report: FBI still not on scene in Benghazi - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

wsj: Militant Link to Libya Attack - WSJ.com

nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

beast: U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Bombed Twice in Run-Up to 9/11 Anniversary - The Daily Beast

wapo: Sensitive documents left behind at U.S. diplomatic post in Libya - The Washington Post

ex: Dems join chorus questioning Obama on attack | WashingtonExaminer

wapo: Panetta says undetermined terrorist group carried out attack on US Consulate in Libya - The Washington Post

abc: Some Administration Officials Were Concerned About Initial White House Push Blaming Benghazi Attack on Mob, Video - ABC News

wsj: Gross Security Failure - WSJ.com

abc: Security Concerns Keep FBI From Scene of Ambassador's Murder, Official Says - ABC News

wapo: From video to terrorist attack: a definitive timeline of administration statements on the Libya attack - The Washington Post

youtube: Tammy Duckworth: Marines Should Have Been in Benghazi - YouTube

beast: Obama's Shaky Libya Narrative - The Daily Beast

cns: Lieberman Calls for Independent Investigation into Libyan Attack | CNS News

cnn: Exclusive: Amb. Chris Stevens worried about al Qaeda hit list – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

huffpo: CNN's Use Of Christopher Stevens' Journal Is 'Disgusting': State Dept.

cbs: Why Did The White House Take So Long To Admit Libya Attack Was Terrorism? « CBS

weekly standard: Permanent Spin | The Weekly Standard

wsj: Miscues Before Libya Assault - WSJ

independent: US 'was warned of Libya embassy attack but did nothing' - Independent.ie

nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...hazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&

buzzfeed: US Embassy In Cairo Deletes Controversial Tweets

sentinel: http://atlanticsentinel.com/2012/09/administration-insists-benghazi-attack-not-premeditated/

independent: Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent

atlantic wire: Report: Ambassador Stevens Said He Was on an Al-Qaeda Hit List

cns: Where Was Obama on Night of Benghazi Attack?

cbs, 60 minutes: Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Are Just "Bumps In The Road" - YouTube
 
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Benghazi US consulate attack: Timeline

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BBC News - Benghazi US consulate attack: Timeline


Yeah Prof.....I know how ya feel when they keep crying about Fox. Although unlike you. I just aint going to give them all the links a head of time. They wont read them anyways. I rather just pop in and show them then what they had missed out of the basics, while they are pontificating at the time. ;)
 
Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

fox conspiracy, right wing noise

tina brown (who just fired howie): U.S. Officials Knew Libya Attacks Were Work of Al Qaeda Affiliates - The Daily Beast

cbs: Lt Col Woods says his 16 member team pulled a month before attack - CBS News

the hill: GOP: US Consulate received repeated threats, had requested more security - The Hill's Global Affairs

wapo: White House secret meetings examine al-Qaeda threat in North Africa - The Washington Post

the hill: Report: FBI still not on scene in Benghazi - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

wsj: Militant Link to Libya Attack - WSJ.com

nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

beast: U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Bombed Twice in Run-Up to 9/11 Anniversary - The Daily Beast

wapo: Sensitive documents left behind at U.S. diplomatic post in Libya - The Washington Post

ex: Dems join chorus questioning Obama on attack | WashingtonExaminer

wapo: Panetta says undetermined terrorist group carried out attack on US Consulate in Libya - The Washington Post

abc: Some Administration Officials Were Concerned About Initial White House Push Blaming Benghazi Attack on Mob, Video - ABC News

wsj: Gross Security Failure - WSJ.com

abc: Security Concerns Keep FBI From Scene of Ambassador's Murder, Official Says - ABC News

wapo: From video to terrorist attack: a definitive timeline of administration statements on the Libya attack - The Washington Post

youtube: Tammy Duckworth: Marines Should Have Been in Benghazi - YouTube

beast: Obama's Shaky Libya Narrative - The Daily Beast

cns: Lieberman Calls for Independent Investigation into Libyan Attack | CNS News

cnn: Exclusive: Amb. Chris Stevens worried about al Qaeda hit list – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

huffpo: CNN's Use Of Christopher Stevens' Journal Is 'Disgusting': State Dept.

cbs: Why Did The White House Take So Long To Admit Libya Attack Was Terrorism? « CBS

weekly standard: Permanent Spin | The Weekly Standard

wsj: Miscues Before Libya Assault - WSJ

independent: US 'was warned of Libya embassy attack but did nothing' - Independent.ie

nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...hazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&

buzzfeed: US Embassy In Cairo Deletes Controversial Tweets

sentinel: http://atlanticsentinel.com/2012/09/administration-insists-benghazi-attack-not-premeditated/

independent: Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent

atlantic wire: Report: Ambassador Stevens Said He Was on an Al-Qaeda Hit List

cns: Where Was Obama on Night of Benghazi Attack?

cbs, 60 minutes: Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Are Just "Bumps In The Road" - YouTube
Do you think anybody reads all the crap you post? Any of it?
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

The cover up of....what exactly?


Usually, you figure out what was actually covered up before you determine there was a cover up, no?

Wow, some one has been purposely ignoring the changing of the state department talking points memo.

Look, we realize you guys don't find anything wrong with a President and his Secretary of State pushing a false Narrative, lying to the Families of the victims because a election is right around the Corner.

But Conservatives and anyone who had any semblance of integriry has a problem with their President lying to their faces.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

How does it prove there were WMDs? It just looks like a bunch of idiots making rash decisions on misinformation. Even Hillary voted to invade. It was bipartisan, but it was wrong and it was a mistake.

It doesn't prove there were WMD's. What it does prove is that the following Democrats thought they did: President Clinton; Madeline Albright; Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger; Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others in a letter to the President; Nancy Pelosi (bolded because you seem to think her hands are clean); Al Gore . . . hell, I could go on and on.

It's obvious you didn't even read them, for God's sake. Those who blame Bush and say he was fighting his daddy's war...that it was all about oil...are full of baloney.
 
Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

To be fair there was a special forces team reviewing embassy security in tripoli at the time of the attack in Benghazi, however it appears they were not equipped for combat and were only armed with 9 mm handguns. I doubt they would have done much good.

Official: US Special Forces team wasn't allowed to fly to Benghazi during attack - Open Channel

Maybe they were ordered not to deploy because they would have met certain death.

Spec Ops deployed without their combat gear? What are you kidding me, something doesn't sound right about that.
 
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Do you think anybody reads

LOL!

consider em footnotes
 
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Spec Ops deployed without their combat gear?

in obama's world...
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

oh, there could be lots of coverups, stay tuned

before the attack...

during the attack...

after...

another problem for this worried white house is its central claim, repeated so many times on the stump, that it had al qaeda on the run

cnn friday---al qaeda arabian peninsula, aqap, baddest of the bad:

Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack - CNN.com

If the AQAP members were dispatched to Benghazi, it would be further evidence of a new level of co-operation among jihadist groups throughout the Middle East and North Africa, counterterrorism analysts say.

According to one source, counterterrorism officials learned the identity of the men and established they had spent two nights in Benghazi after the attack. Western intelligence agencies began trying to track the men in the aftermath of the terrorist attack, but were always behind in their manhunt.

They were later traced to northern Mali, where they are believed to have connected with a fighting group commanded by Moktar Belmoktar, a prominent jihadist leader, according to a senior law enforcement source.

mr belmoktar, by the way, according to cnn, it turns out is that same fun lovin fella who committed the assault on the amenas gas facility in southern algeria in january, resulting in the deaths of 38 humans over 3 barbaric days

aqap, emphasizes cnn, "is one of the most active and dangerous of al qaeda franchises"

aqap recruited the underwear bomber, ultimately subdued by passengers on christmas eve, 2009

aqap did the printer bombs of october, 2010, points out cnn, friday

and also the april 12, 2013 plot, sniffed out by "a british informant working for saudi intelligence," to blow up a us bound plane (news to me)

did they view the vile video, these advance men from aqap, before or after they were dispatched from yemen?

on september 14, aqap "released a statement arguing the benghazi attack was revenge for the death of abu yahya al libi, a senior al qaeda operative, in pakistan in june 2012," notes cnn

cnn: "on september 10, at least 18 hours before the attack, al qaeda leader ayman al zawahiri called for attacks on americans in libya to avenge the death of al libi"

in other words, it wasn't a video, it was a drone

cnn:

n December, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the investigation said authorities were examining whether the alleged leader of a post-revolution terrorist network in Egypt had played a role in the September 11 attack. Mohammed Jamal Abu Ahmed was released from jail after the downfall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and is believed to be the driving force behind a new militant group, according to two U.S. officials.

cnn concludes: "if aqap can send members thousands of miles to help launch an attack on us diplomats..."

they might even be able to get to boston
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

It's obvious you didn't even read them, for God's sake. Those who blame Bush and say he was fighting his daddy's war...that it was all about oil...are full of baloney.

You really don't think the Bush Administration had tunnelvision regarding Iraq? Many people across the political spectrum were to blame, true, but the responsibility always falls on the president.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

Do you think anybody reads all the crap you post? Any of it?


Plenty of us do.

It's only " crap" because it exposes your corrupt ideology.

Dont come down on him because he questions your character by posting the truth.

It's not our fault you elected liars to run this Country.
 
Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

You really don't think the Bush Administration had tunnelvision regarding Iraq? Many people across the political spectrum were to blame, true, but the responsibility always falls on the president.

You'll get no argument from me. But. For those who say it was Bush's Daddy's War and Bush's War for Oil? They're full of ****.
 
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