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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13;106177p9084
    The only spec ops team nearby was in tripoli at the time, and they were
    not properly armed for combat since the only weapons they had were their 9 mm hand guns.

    What good would they have done againist the heavily armed opposition they would have encountered in Benghazi?

    Also there was the fact that the situation on the ground was still uncertain and there were concerns that the embassy in tripoli could have been targeted next.
    Special Ops only armed with hand guns ?

    Who's BS account are you defering to ?

    They were dispatched to Tripoli, a "Special Ops" unit with just hand guns ?

    Not to mention the whistleblower stating that aircraft alone overhead would have scattered the terrorist.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Yeah. But only Bush drove us into a stupid war. That seems to be a real important distinction.
    Thats just a desperate and dishonest attempt, and CHILDISH attempt to divert attention away from Benghazzi.

    PLUS, the Democrats voted to go to war PLUS many Democrats prior to 9/11 made public statements alluding to the presensce of WMDs

    How bout we focus on May 7, 2013.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats just a desperate and dishonest attempt, and CHILDISH attempt to divert attention away from Benghazzi.

    PLUS, the Democrats voted to go to war PLUS many Democrats prior to 9/11 made public statements alluding to the presensce of WMDs

    How bout we focus on May 7, 2013.

    I thought the whole point of the thread was to focus on September 11, 2012.


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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    No, I'm pointing out the incredible hypocratical arrogance of getting all huffy about Benghazi all the while being in complete denial about Iraq.
    aren't you doing the exact same thing here, with the one caveat being that you are trying to shift attention away from an ongoing investigation, by going "look over there"?

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I thought the whole point of the thread
    was to focus on September 11, 2012.
    Thats a bit difficult when you guys come on here and deliberately try to divert attention away from Benghazi.

    I was telling him to focus on the discussion that we are having on May 7, 2013 in the Thread about Benghazzi.

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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    Why This All Still Really Does Make a Difference:

    Many will argue that Benghazi is “old news”, little more than a political Republican gotcha game. They will attribute further investigations and commentary to sour grapes attempts to “get back at” the president and Democrats following an election which proved that Benghazi didn’t matter to voters, or to undermine a predictable Hillary bid to replace him in 2016. They will say that it’s time to move on … quit wasting time trying to fix something that can’t be changed…drop the whole thing. They will claim that the military could have done nothing to stop it even if they had been ordered to intervene. As for all the lies and cover-ups, they’re to be dismissed as insignificant misunderstandings.

    The mainstream media will agree, demonstrating through reporting avoidance and affirmation that none of this is important to them either. It never was. Not when it comes to “their team”.

    But for some, it does matter, and perhaps less because mistakes were made, and more because after being shrouded in blatant public deceptions, the same mindsets underlying those misjudgments and misrepresentations continue. As with Benghazi, the Obama administration was unwilling to attribute the bombings which killed and maimed innocent Boston Marathon attendees to radical Islamic terrorists. Meanwhile, Benghazi eyewitnesses are sequestered to avoid congressional inquiries into causes and responses, while killers which the president pledged to bring to justice roam free.

    The morning after the consulate attack, President Obama vowed: “Make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring justice to the killers who attack our people.” And as Charles Woods recalled when his son’s body arrived at Andrews Air Force Base, Hillary told him first of all that she was sorry…and then, that: “We will make sure the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”

    Unfortunately, the only one that was brought to “justice” is Mark Basseley Youssef, the designated scapegoat who created the offensive “Innocence of Muslims” video. He was arrested and jailed on an “unrelated probation violation” right after the attack.

    Remarkably, Ali Ani al-Harzi, a leading suspect in the attack believed to be a brother of Tariq Abu Ammar, a mid-level al-Qaida planner in Iraq, doesn’t appear to be very worried. He has reportedly been seen in a crowded luxury hotel sipping strawberry frappes with an alleged fellow suspect and ringleader, Ahmed Abu Khattala, seemingly oblivious to any fear of capture by U.S. and Libyan governments. After all, with the Obama administration in denial about an Islamist jihad threat, and the White House and State Department now moving on to other matters, why should he care?

    No, it’s the rest of us that should really be concerned. It should matter a great deal when we cannot trust the priorities, honesty or competence of those who hold top government offices, or media acolytes that pitch and cover for them. We should be angered when willful, avoidable, unexplained failures to defend those who serve our country cause them to die. And yes again, Hillary, we should care because transparent investigations and disclosures of such events can provide lessons which truly do make a difference.....snip~

    More Evidence Of Deadly Benghazi Screw-Up Found Under Oval Office Rug - Forbes


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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    aren't you doing the exact same thing here, with the one caveat being that you are trying to shift attention away from an ongoing investigation, by going "look over there"?
    Yes, I do admit to derailing. I generally don't and usually try to refrain, but the hypocrisy and feigned outrage needed a bit of levelling, IMO.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    I asked in another thread, but I'm hoping for an answer -- If he knew it was dangerous days ahead of time, why was the Ambassador in Benghazi instead of at the Embassy in Tripoli?


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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Special Ops only armed with hand guns ?

    Who's BS account are you defering to ?

    They were dispatched to Tripoli, a "Special Ops" unit with just hand guns ?

    Not to mention the whistleblower stating that aircraft alone overhead would have scattered the terrorist.
    The special forces were in tripoli to review embassy security, they were not equipped for frontline combat.

    U.S. military officials confirmed late Monday that a four-man Special Operations Forces team was denied permission to leave the US Embassy in Tripoli following reports that the consulate in Benghazi had been attacked.
    The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the team was reviewing security at U.S. embassies throughout the Middle East and was not prepared for a combat assault mission, being armed with only 9mm sidearms.

    They also noted that the situation at Benghazi remained unclear and there were concerns the Embassy in Tripoli also could become a target.
    There were other special forces teams in Europe but by the time they were getting ready it was already too late.

    Two separate U.S. Special Forces teams from elsewhere in Europe were ultimately authorized to respond to the attacks, but did not arrive at staging bases until the evening of Sept. 12, more than 12 hours after the fighting had ended.


    Official: US Special Forces team wasn't allowed to fly to Benghazi during attack - Open Channel

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes, I do admit to derailing. I generally don't and usually try to refrain, but
    the hypocrisy and feigned outrage needed a bit of levelling, IMO.
    The only hypocrisy is coming from you guys. Your Constructed narratives aside, we NOW have a President who is directly involved in a cover up for polilitical reasons.

    In a cover up that involves 4 dead Americans.

    Personally I think your trolling does your lot more harm than good. You are admitting that the best you have to offer up in this debate are the tactics of a 4 year old child.

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