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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    Spec Ops deployed without their combat gear?
    in obama's world...

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    oh, there could be lots of coverups, stay tuned

    before the attack...

    during the attack...

    after...

    another problem for this worried white house is its central claim, repeated so many times on the stump, that it had al qaeda on the run

    cnn friday---al qaeda arabian peninsula, aqap, baddest of the bad:

    Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack - CNN.com

    If the AQAP members were dispatched to Benghazi, it would be further evidence of a new level of co-operation among jihadist groups throughout the Middle East and North Africa, counterterrorism analysts say.

    According to one source, counterterrorism officials learned the identity of the men and established they had spent two nights in Benghazi after the attack. Western intelligence agencies began trying to track the men in the aftermath of the terrorist attack, but were always behind in their manhunt.

    They were later traced to northern Mali, where they are believed to have connected with a fighting group commanded by Moktar Belmoktar, a prominent jihadist leader, according to a senior law enforcement source.
    mr belmoktar, by the way, according to cnn, it turns out is that same fun lovin fella who committed the assault on the amenas gas facility in southern algeria in january, resulting in the deaths of 38 humans over 3 barbaric days

    aqap, emphasizes cnn, "is one of the most active and dangerous of al qaeda franchises"

    aqap recruited the underwear bomber, ultimately subdued by passengers on christmas eve, 2009

    aqap did the printer bombs of october, 2010, points out cnn, friday

    and also the april 12, 2013 plot, sniffed out by "a british informant working for saudi intelligence," to blow up a us bound plane (news to me)

    did they view the vile video, these advance men from aqap, before or after they were dispatched from yemen?

    on september 14, aqap "released a statement arguing the benghazi attack was revenge for the death of abu yahya al libi, a senior al qaeda operative, in pakistan in june 2012," notes cnn

    cnn: "on september 10, at least 18 hours before the attack, al qaeda leader ayman al zawahiri called for attacks on americans in libya to avenge the death of al libi"

    in other words, it wasn't a video, it was a drone

    cnn:

    n December, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the investigation said authorities were examining whether the alleged leader of a post-revolution terrorist network in Egypt had played a role in the September 11 attack. Mohammed Jamal Abu Ahmed was released from jail after the downfall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and is believed to be the driving force behind a new militant group, according to two U.S. officials.
    cnn concludes: "if aqap can send members thousands of miles to help launch an attack on us diplomats..."

    they might even be able to get to boston

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's obvious you didn't even read them, for God's sake. Those who blame Bush and say he was fighting his daddy's war...that it was all about oil...are full of baloney.
    You really don't think the Bush Administration had tunnelvision regarding Iraq? Many people across the political spectrum were to blame, true, but the responsibility always falls on the president.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do you think anybody reads all the crap you post? Any of it?

    Plenty of us do.

    It's only " crap" because it exposes your corrupt ideology.

    Dont come down on him because he questions your character by posting the truth.

    It's not our fault you elected liars to run this Country.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You really don't think the Bush Administration had tunnelvision regarding Iraq? Many people across the political spectrum were to blame, true, but the responsibility always falls on the president.
    You'll get no argument from me. But. For those who say it was Bush's Daddy's War and Bush's War for Oil? They're full of ****.
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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Plenty of us do.

    It's only " crap" because it exposes your corrupt ideology.

    Dont come down on him because he questions your character by posting the truth.

    It's not our fault you elected liars to run this Country.
    Which ones did you read? Please let's not have any Sarah Palin answers from you.

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    Re: There was a stand down order given in Benghzi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    " If Saddam rejects Peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Saddams WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROGRAM " Bill Clinton, Feb 17, 1998

    " He will use those WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION again, as he has 10 times since 1983 " Sandy Berger , Feb 18 1998

    " Saddam Hussien has been engaged in the development of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION technology, which is a threat to neighboring Countries in the reagion and has made a mockery of the weapons inspection " Nancy Pelosi 1998

    Lol...Libz are so irritated with the victims of Benghazzi. " Why did they have to die RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION !!"

    I guess they like being lied to.
    I was able to find the President Clinton quote online, but the others... not so much, which goes for the majority of quotes on that list you pegged.

    Are there credible sources for these quotes? You know, NYT, Washington Post, Associated Press, LA Times, etc?

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You'll get no argument from me. But. For those who say it was Bush's Daddy's War and Bush's War for Oil? They're full of ****.
    I actually agree.

    Regardless of the how/why, it was a catastrophic mistake and it should be acknowledged. Yes, Bush gets the blame. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Got anything about the Libyans Warning us 3 days Prior to the Attack on Benghazi......got anything that can Debunk the fact that the Libyan President stated it was a Predetermined and involved AQ? You know that which Team Obama denied.....but now has been brought by the FBI and the CIA.

    Got anything to Prove that team Obama didn't deny what the Libyan President stated? Lets not let that fact confuse those such as yourself.
    Let me ask you, since you like to explain it. there were repeated moments which we heard of where we knew where Bin Laden was, and the order never came. What is the difference? Well, aside the fact we were actually at war with afganistan and we were not in a state of war with libya so sending an armed attack into a sovereign nations borders was an act of war if you do not have approval, but why do you treat this sort of thing differently?

    There is also a huge honesty gap in claiming no orders were stand down orders. The armed forces cannot just jump up and attack a foreign nation because they want to at the moment. The armed forces need to be ordered to do something. Now if you want to argue the order should have been issued i will get to that. Simply telling troops that no order to attack has come and that they need to wait until the order is issued would seem to be the way the armed forces works, and yet again nothing terribly new has actually come out about benghazi.

    Seriously what you are advocating is like sending troops into england because some US people are getting attacked on the street. It is not going to happen because unless england asks we don't send our troops in. this applies to other sovereign nations. No, we are not allowed to send armed troops into sovereign nations to make war in their streets. This was not an attack by the recognized libyan authorities. This is called diplomacy and though you are person who wishes we could just send the army in anywhere we want to, it just simply is not the case. Libya is not a state or even a protected territory of the US. Yes, that will mean that at times people are on their own in foreign countries we do not control.

    you claims are still a load of crap. i recognize you have worked yourself into a fit over the whole benghazi thing, and are not thinking rationally about how the world works, but the US administration, no matter who it is, has to worry about diplomacy and other sovereign territory. It cannot just act on it's impetuous emotions without thought. Life is easy when you are president from the chair in your living room, but the real president has to deal with other world leaders and lines on a map that actually mean something to people. However, since you advocate for things like this i am sure that it would be completely legal and good for Iran to launch an attack on Gitmo to save it's people being tortured and killed there. Why should iran worry about the reprocussions of it's actions. I am sure the US people would completely understand they came in to save their fellow countrymen by launching a military invasion in a foreign country.

    So if obama was a little slow on giving the order, and the military people didn't want to invade a sovereign foreign country without approval i don't blame them on that one. 4 people are nothing compared to a war in libya for sending an invasion into their land. Now if you can prove libyan officials had asked obama and the administration for help in time to launch the troops then you have a point. So please show us the proof libya asked for our help in destroying the attacking terrorists.

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    Re: Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks(edit

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Let me ask you, since you like to explain it. there were repeated moments which we heard of where we knew where Bin Laden was, and the order never came. What is the difference? Well, aside the fact we were actually at war with afganistan and we were not in a state of war with libya so sending an armed attack into a sovereign nations borders was an act of war if you do not have approval, but why do you treat this sort of thing differently?

    There is also a huge honesty gap in claiming no orders were stand down orders. The armed forces cannot just jump up and attack a foreign nation because they want to at the moment. The armed forces need to be ordered to do something. Now if you want to argue the order should have been issued i will get to that. Simply telling troops that no order to attack has come and that they need to wait until the order is issued would seem to be the way the armed forces works, and yet again nothing terribly new has actually come out about benghazi.

    Seriously what you are advocating is like sending troops into england because some US people are getting attacked on the street. It is not going to happen because unless england asks we don't send our troops in. this applies to other sovereign nations. No, we are not allowed to send armed troops into sovereign nations to make war in their streets. This was not an attack by the recognized libyan authorities. This is called diplomacy and though you are person who wishes we could just send the army in anywhere we want to, it just simply is not the case. Libya is not a state or even a protected territory of the US. Yes, that will mean that at times people are on their own in foreign countries we do not control.

    you claims are still a load of crap. i recognize you have worked yourself into a fit over the whole benghazi thing, and are not thinking rationally about how the world works, but the US administration, no matter who it is, has to worry about diplomacy and other sovereign territory. It cannot just act on it's impetuous emotions without thought. Life is easy when you are president from the chair in your living room, but the real president has to deal with other world leaders and lines on a map that actually mean something to people. However, since you advocate for things like this i am sure that it would be completely legal and good for Iran to launch an attack on Gitmo to save it's people being tortured and killed there. Why should iran worry about the reprocussions of it's actions. I am sure the US people would completely understand they came in to save their fellow countrymen by launching a military invasion in a foreign country.

    So if obama was a little slow on giving the order, and the military people didn't want to invade a sovereign foreign country without approval i don't blame them on that one. 4 people are nothing compared to a war in libya for sending an invasion into their land. Now if you can prove libyan officials had asked obama and the administration for help in time to launch the troops then you have a point. So please show us the proof libya asked for our help in destroying the attacking terrorists.
    None of that has to do with what was told to this administration by the Libyans. Which they can no longer deny.

    Which none of this changes that what team Obama told the American people from the get go.....which was. That it wasn't a Planned attack and there was No AQ. That has now been proven to be false. Which means he, "Obama" one was Wrong......and two. Lied!

    Yeah, I know it is hard for you to understand. But then, no one can take the blame for you believing everything out of Obama's mouth.

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