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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    >" Bill Ayers was born in December 1944 and was raised in a Chicago suburb. In the mid-1960s he taught at a radical alternative school -- part of the "free school movement" -- where students addressed teachers by their first names, and where no grades or report cards were given. By age 21, Ayers had become the director of that school. In 1968 he earned a B.A. in American Studies from the University of Michigan.

    In the late Sixties, Ayers became a leader of the Weather Underground (WU), a splinter faction of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). Characterizing WU as “an American Red Army,” Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.” One of Ayers' fellow WU leaders was Bernardine Dohrn, the woman who would later become his wife.

    In a July 29, 1969 speech which he delivered at the University of Oregon, Ayers boasted of SDS's role in the Venceremos Brigades, a project initiated by the Cuban intelligence agency to recruit and train American leftists as “brigadistas” capable of waging guerrilla warfare.

    Ayers was an active participant in the 1969 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago, which were led by WU's antecedent group, Weatherman. In the mayhem, nearly 300 members of the organization engaged in vandalism, arson, and vicious attacks against police and civilians alike. Their immediate objective was to spread their anti-war, anti-American message. Their long-term goal, however, was to cause the collapse of the United States and to create, in its stead, a new communist society over which they themselves would rule. With regard to those Americans who might refuse to embrace communism, Ayers and his comrades -- including Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Linda Evans, Jeff Jones, and numerous others -- proposed that such resisters should be sent to reeducation camps and killed. The terrorists estimated that it would be necessary to eliminate some 25 million people in this fashion, so as to advance the revolution.

    In his 2001 memoir Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical and boasts that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972.” Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers writes, “Everything was absolutely ideal.... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.” He further recalls his fascination with the fact that "a good bomb" could render even "big buildings and wide streets ... fragile and destructible," leaving behind a "majestic scene" of utter destruction.

    All told, Ayers and the Weather Underground were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs," said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough." Contemplating whether or not he might again use bombs against the U.S. sometime in the future, he wrote: “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.”

    In 1970, Ayers’ then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by hundreds of Army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Ayers himself attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, “tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too.” Notably, Ayers' fingerprints were found at the bomb-making site, along with an assortment of anti-personnel weapons, stabbing implements, C-4 plastic explosive, and dozens of Marxist-Leninist publications.

    After the death of his girlfriend, Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn spent the rest of the decade as fugitives running from the FBI. "<

    There's more. -> Bill Ayers - Discover the Networks

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They had a formal declaration of war against the United States.

    "The "Flint War Council," was a series of meetings of the Weather Underground Organization and associates in Flint, Michigan, that took place from 27–31 December 1969.[60] During these meetings, the decisions were made for the Weather Underground Organization to go underground [22] and to "engage in guerilla warfare against the U.S. government."[61] This decision was made in response to increased pressure from law enforcement,[62] and a belief that underground guerilla warfare was the best way to combat the U.S. government.[61]"

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    "Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aiding or involved by such an endeavor."

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    Yes, treason....Bill Ayres is a traitor to this country that is responsible for the death of more than a couple of people.
    So by that definition then all those tea party militias, stocking up on guns and ammo, and preparing to fight against the tyrannical government and some already having commited crime and murder should be gassed for treason, too? Okay, if you say so.

    http://www.andrewhalcro.com/american...and_burgeoning
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    The Weatherman later known as the Weather Underground agenda had little to do with the Vietnam War
    OH REALLY???

    For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a communiqué saying it was "in protest of the U.S. invasion of Laos". For the bombing of the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi". For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the United States Department of State building, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam".
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    That's where Barack Obama enters the picture.
    In 1973 when the Weather Underground broke up, Barack Obama was a twelve year old boy in the seventh grade living in Honolulu.
    You are delusional.
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The "illegal part of the Vietnam war was the "incursion" into Cambodia and Laos as commanded by President Nixon.
    There was no authority do do so . No discussion or even knowledge in congress that the president was intending to overstep his office by waging war on other countries.
    The only people in government who knew of this "incursion", where millions of tons of bombs were dropped on sovereign countries, were Nixon and the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon.
    These are the war crimes and illegal war maneuvers committed in our name under the banner of the Vietnam war.
    You're not supposed to talk about this. You're supposed to believe that a handful of violent anti-war activists were responsible for the US losing the war and McCain losing the election to Obama and his swengali, Ayers. That's the tea party narrative and they're sticking with it.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're either young and have never heard of the Ho Chi Minh trail or you're old enough to know and are uneducated. There were very good reasons to bomb the supply routes for the VC.

    And btw, if you bone up on your history you'll find the bombings of Laos and Cambodia began under Johnson. Google Operartion Menu.
    Still fighting the Vietnam War after all these years. It's perfect.

    Nothing ever changes in bizarroconservativeworld.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Treason is s crime punishable by death.
    Then why hasn't Bush been arrested?

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Weatherman later known as the Weather Underground agenda had little to do with the Vietnam War. They were radical socialist who wanted a violent revolution and over throw the U.S. Government.

    By the late 70's Ayers gave up on the idea of using terrorism to achieve his agenda, he decided to put his own kind in political office, Change government from with in.

    That's where Barack Obama enters the picture.
    So all the pieces have now fallen into place and the Weather Underground, thanks to Obama, has triumphed.

    It must suck being a conservatives and losing once again to Obama and his cadre of socialist agitators from the 1970s.

    I hope the GOP and its tea party masters use this argument in the next election and hasten their rush to electoral irrelevancy

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    You're not supposed to talk about this. You're supposed to believe that a handful of violent anti-war activists were responsible for the US losing the war and McCain losing the election to Obama and his swengali, Ayers. That's the tea party narrative and they're sticking with it.
    I understand that hoj, they live in an alternate universe where they write their own version of the history of the world.
    They are largely delusional.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I understand that hoj, they live in an alternate universe where they write their own version of the history of the world.
    They are largely delusional.
    I like the one about how the US could have "won" the Vietnam War were it not for Jane Fonda and the traitors in the anti-war movement.

    I recall a mustachioed German making a similar argument, mutatis mutandis, about WWI.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I like the one about how the US could have "won" the Vietnam War were it not for Jane Fonda and the traitors in the anti-war movement.
    .

    I never heard that one before. Considering I was in Vietnam when the word came down for the 3rd Mar Div, pack it up your going back to the "Rock." Then the word came down to my unit, pack it up if your a short timer.

    The withdraw from Vietnam started in late 1969 a few years before Hanoi Jane visited Hanoi. The word was we were not going to be allowed to finish the job. What we were told after whipping the NVA and VC during Tet of 68, the biggest military defeat in North Vietnam's history, when the light was finally seen at the end of the tunnel. But some liberal by the name of Cronkite reported to the American people that we were defeated during Tet and there was no light at the end of the tunnel. It seems at the time there were 500,000 Americans troops in RVN who disagreed with that pantywaist liberal.

    But RMN would become our Cn'C and the word came down. We didn't like those orders but orders are orders.

    But it was Gen. Giap who acknowledged that the anti war movement in America that encouraged him to continue fighting after his major defeat during the Tet Offensive of 68.

    And you have to remember who's photos are proudly displayed on the walls of the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum in Hanoi, Vietnam. No other than John Kerry and Jane Fonda (aka Hanoi Jane)

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