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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're either young and have never heard of the Ho Chi Minh trail or you're old enough to know and are uneducated. There were very good reasons to bomb the supply routes for the VC.

    And btw, if you bone up on your history you'll find the bombings of Laos and Cambodia began under Johnson. Google Operartion Menu.
    The Ho Chi Minh Trail wasn't in Cambodia, and tapes prove that Nixon ordered bombing in Cambodia in order to starve civilians, which is both a war crime, and terrorism
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The "illegal part of the Vietnam war was the "incursion" into Cambodia and Laos as commanded by President Nixon.
    There was no authority do do so . No discussion or even knowledge in congress that the president was intending to overstep his office by waging war on other countries.
    The only people in government who knew of this "incursion", where millions of tons of bombs were dropped on sovereign countries, were Nixon and the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon.
    These are the war crimes and illegal war maneuvers committed in our name under the banner of the Vietnam war.
    Cambodia and Laos were giving sanctuary to the North Vietnamese. It was no more illeagal to invade them than it was to invade Holland during WW2.
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    What's funny is that the common distinction that those on the right are almost always sure to make is the distinction between violence that targets government/military vs. violence that targets civilians.
    Why is this a right vs left thing? How much can the right and left agree on?

    Do you regard it as immoral or illegal if the police have to violently subdue violent criminals?

    Do you regard it as immoral or illegal if the United States wages war to defend itself from foreign aggression?

    If there were Americans who disagreed with FDR's decision to send troops to the Pacific and Europe to what extent do you believe that they would have been justified in opposing those actions?

    If Congress and the President legally, constitutionally commit the nation to war is it inappropriate to protest that if protests might undermine the military's efforts?

    Do you think most other left of center people feel the same way?
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Treason is s crime punishable by death.
    Treason? lol ok, treason against what?

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    You're either young and have never heard of the Ho Chi Minh trail or you're old enough to know and are uneducated. There were very good reasons to bomb the supply routes for the VC.
    I am 62 and I remember it all quite well. Johnson bombed the supply trail within Vietnam and just over the boarder and was careful to do so with small sorties . Nixon's incursions into Cambodia and Laos with B52 carpet bombings were only learned about well after the fact. He did it secretly with the intention of killing and starving millions of civilians.. Both were in violation of constitutional and international law.
    You are saying that any president has the power within his office to decide to carpet bomb any sovereign country without approval of congress?
    You need to educate yourself on constitutional powers.
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Treason? lol ok, treason against what?
    Seriously, siser?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Seriously, siser?
    Come on, apdst...say it....treason against what?

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Come on, apdst...say it....treason against what?
    They had a formal declaration of war against the United States.

    "The "Flint War Council," was a series of meetings of the Weather Underground Organization and associates in Flint, Michigan, that took place from 27–31 December 1969.[60] During these meetings, the decisions were made for the Weather Underground Organization to go underground [22] and to "engage in guerilla warfare against the U.S. government."[61] This decision was made in response to increased pressure from law enforcement,[62] and a belief that underground guerilla warfare was the best way to combat the U.S. government.[61]"

    Weather Underground - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aiding or involved by such an endeavor."

    Treason - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Yes, treason....Bill Ayres is a traitor to this country that is responsible for the death of more than a couple of people.
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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    No one was ever killed in a weather underground bombing.
    If Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground shortened the Vietnam war by only one day or saved the life of only one American serviceman from being squandered they are my heroes.
    I believe they did contribute to the shortening of the war and I believe that they saved many Americans by doing that.
    The war criminal Nixon on the other hand, purposely sabotaged the Paris peace agreement with the Johnson administration so he could get his treasonous, republicon ass elected in 1968, continuing the war for four more long years and thus killing thousands of American troops and possibly millions of Southeast Asians.
    Given the opportunity I would gladly **** on Nixon's treasonous grave.

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    Re: Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The veitnam war was a controversial war and not everyone agreed with our involvement there.

    Is it really neccesary to reopen old wounds of that era?
    The Weatherman later known as the Weather Underground agenda had little to do with the Vietnam War. They were radical socialist who wanted a violent revolution and over throw the U.S. Government.

    By the late 70's Ayers gave up on the idea of using terrorism to achieve his agenda, he decided to put his own kind in political office, Change government from with in.

    That's where Barack Obama enters the picture.

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