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Three More Officials To Testify Over Benghazi Attacks

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cbs this evening

Other so-called "whistleblowers" from federal agencies, including the CIA, have provided information to Congressional investigators, but are said to be unwilling - so far - to speak publicly because they aren't authorized by their agencies to do so. Some claim fear of retaliation.

It's been a remarkably long period of silence from the dozens of American survivors and eyewitnesses who were in Libya the night of the attacks. It's not publicly known what testimony the witnesses will give at this week's hearing, but in a series of interviews and communications, CBS News has obtained information about some of areas of knowledge the witnesses can address.

Three more officials to testify over Benghazi attacks - CBS News

gregory hicks, deputy chief of mission, essentially ambassador stevens' #2, took the first call

"we were under attack"

hicks took the call from the unidentified caller on stevens' personal cell phone saying the ambassador was at the hospital dead

hicks was there when americans took custody of the body under (to quote cbs) "circumstances that still remain mysterious"

Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.

"We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment," one eyewitness told CBS News. "Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed.

We answered: 'Send reinforcements!' "

But they were told immediate help wasn't available.

Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.

"Isn't there anything available?" one Embassy official says he asked. "But the answer was 'no.'"

"What about Aviano?" the official pressed, referencing the NATO air base with US assets in northeastern Italy. "No," was the answer.

Two of the four Americans killed that night died hours after the first attack began.

Some have complained the Obama Administration has not explained why there were no military resources available to turbulent North Africa on the Sept. 11 attacks, even at the large Souda Bay U.S. Naval base less than an hour's flight from Libya. The State Department's independent Accountability Review Board said government officials did everything they could, considering the challenges.

mark thompson is acting deputy assistant secretary for counter terrorism

"thompson will testify that he was locked out of the process even tho he was the individual who was supposed to react to these kinds of things"

that is, the admin did not convene its "top interagency counter terrorism resource," the csg, counter terrorism security group

"counter terrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by cbs express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy but were never called upon to help"

nsc spokesman tommy vietor told cbs the csg was not needed

"'the csg is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has, they know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counter terrorism assets across all the agencies,' a high-ranking government official told cbs"

we were not allowed to do our job, we were not called on, we were frozen out

in the absence of csg, the response became chaotic, recounts cbs

"the response process was isolated at the most senior level" of (points out cbs) "the executive branch"

my fellow counter terrorism pros and i were not allowed input, thompson will testify (according to cbs)

hicks and thompson and "several others whose accounts are at odds with official govt statements have reported feeling marginalized, intimidated and/or subjected to threats of retaliation"

stay tuned
 
I just want to point out that the "no" from the Defense Attaché (DATT) would not have been his decision. The DATT, while being the senior US military official in country, can only act as a liaison between the embassy and the DoD. He has no command authority whatsoever.
 
Maybe if you make about 20 threads for every update there might be a new stary? Only problem is it seems to be a small group of the same people who keeps touting this as important. Perhaps it will become more interesting or actually be watergate if you guys shout louder? I also noticed that supposedly these guys are going to testify to bring down Obama because the news calls them whistleblowers and says the Obama admin may have threatened them (The Obama admin may also be holding the easter bunny hostage) so it seems that they will be bringing down the admin with their testimony of? Oh wait we don't even know if they will contradict the story given by the Obama admin at all.

Well, i guess it is good you shout victory now, sort of like how you declared victory in the presidential election. It will be much harder to claim victory after they testify and Obama is still around. So have fun with your victory party before the loss. I have to admit given your propensity for fail it is probably the best you can get.
 
bob schieffer, sharyl atkisson, mark thompson, eric nordstrom, greg hicks, steven lynch and dutch ruppersberger aren't shouting

the only people shouting in this story are the dozens of eyewitnesses and survivors kept silent, according to cbs, "a remarkably long period," as they called to tripoli, to aviano, to souda bay, "send reinforcements!"

none came---for 8 hours

dozens of americans in danger were left "helpless and abandoned"

then secretary of defense panetta testified before armed services in feb---no response was sent because "the attack ended before we could get anyone off the ground"

Panetta: Not enough time to respond to Benghazi attack | KFOR.com

panetta also testified before carl levin's committee that he and martin dempsey briefed the president for 15 to 20 minutes and that was it

the president went to bed

why did the state dept bypass the csg, foggy bottom's "top interagency counterterrorism resource," resulting in an uncoordinated and chaotic response, according to csg's deputy asst secretary?

why was "the number 2 to ambassador chris stevens" never interviewed by arb?

and why are so many coming forward to complain about being "marginalized, intimidated and/or subjected to threats of retaliation," according to cbs?

stay tuned
 
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Well, maybe if you put up enough threads the DP staff will make a new place for all the benghazi threads. At this point it has to be more pressing than the zimmerman case. Then we can all put this racket where it belongs. It will be 2020 and you will still be hung up on benghazi. Can't you move onto the new conspiracy theory that obama did the boston marathon bombings? What happened to him stealing your guns? benghazi is old and tired at this point, and we have moved on. Please join us in 2013.
 
Well, maybe if you put up enough threads the DP staff will make a new place for all the benghazi threads. At this point it has to be more pressing than the zimmerman case. Then we can all put this racket where it belongs. It will be 2020 and you will still be hung up on benghazi. Can't you move onto the new conspiracy theory that obama did the boston marathon bombings? What happened to him stealing your guns? benghazi is old and tired at this point, and we have moved on. Please join us 2013.

why are you so fervently opposed to investigating the incident and the actions of the administration?

ahhh, that's right, It's Obama and you're a Democrat.
 
why are you so fervently opposed to investigating the incident and the actions of the administration?

ahhh, that's right, It's Obama and you're a Democrat.

I could add several choice words to describe her...
 
why are you so fervently opposed to investigating the incident and the actions of the administration?

Well, what I am opposed to is to keep investigating over and over despite having a clear answer in hopes that the answer will change to the imaginary scenario you have in your mind. If it does not lead to the execution of Obama, his family, and every person who voted for him you will not be satisfied. There is no resolution that will ever satisfy a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut. Even if their wildest dreams of aliens mating with bigfoot to give birth to Obama in kenya is realized there would be a deeper conspiracy of crazy that they would want to investigate. These investigations are best left to TLC or the history channel and not as a distraction from congress doing their jobs. We do not need to give congress yet another excuse why they should fail to produce a budget, but thanks for helping in that area.

You have no evidence there was anything more than a screw up, and that means you do not even know what you are trying to uncover. Not to mention we have heard the doom to obama claims before. You and your comrades have been claiming the next watergate every other week for the past 4 years and you have not even come close. We heard it every day for over a year before the last election. Every time obama sneezed or some republican said something Obama lost the election. It was the end of his presidency, you promised. Look, this is the chicken little/little boy who cried wolf thing on a countrywide level. It is not the end of the world for Obama, and you have not won. You have not even heard any new evidence or testimony. You have no idea what these guys will say. They could come forth and say obama is a great guy and everything was as he said. Not that it would stop you from crying benghazi every two minutes, but you don;'t even know, and you cannot even speculate on what they might say because you cannot even figure out an alternative that means what you wish it does.

ahhh, that's right, It's Obama and you're a Democrat.

I tell you what. If you want me to end up more in the middle with my comments quit feeding so much insanity into the discussion. I have never said the democrats were good by any stretch like the republicons want us to believe the republicons are honest and good people who have our backs. But that doesn't mean they are near equal in levels of stupidity with the republicans presently. You just paint big giant targets on yourselves with all this tinfoil hat BS. You just invite the calls of insanity and stupidity when you endorse these ignorant and dimwitted fools. You have people claiming women's bodies shut down when they are raped, and you make them the head of your science committee. You are the party of family values and morals and you support people like Sanford and gingrich. You claim fiscal responsibility while the last president from your party tanked a stable and growing economy and put us into a recession and billions in debt with 2 wars and he couldn't touch the boogeyman. You claim to be on the side of the american worker while destroying unions and running a corporate dumbass who had destroyed more american jobs than the japanese in the 80s.

So before you go thinking this is a republican democrat thing, your side is screwed up massively. It is FUBAR. Pretending you are a libertarian while clearly being a republican is not going to help you. It just makes the joke that much more funny because you think calling yourself a lib excuses your blind spot for the reps. Obama sucks, you are correct in that aspect, but he doesn't suck anywhere near as much as the alternatives, and the parts that have really failed have been ideas that came from his republican side like continuing the BS wars, keeping Gitmo open, Going with mandatory private insurance instead of universal health care, and bailing out too big to fail businesses. Just because obama did them doesn't mean those were democrat policies. The dems have their own crap, but it is currently nothing like the stupid coming from your republican heroes. So don't blame me for commenting on the much larger pile of BS you seem to think is a big old pile of gold.
 
Well, maybe if you put up enough threads the DP staff will make a new place for all the benghazi threads. At this point it has to be more pressing than the zimmerman case. Then we can all put this racket where it belongs. It will be 2020 and you will still be hung up on benghazi. Can't you move onto the new conspiracy theory that obama did the boston marathon bombings? What happened to him stealing your guns? benghazi is old and tired at this point, and we have moved on. Please join us in 2013.
It's a huge scandal for a plethora of reasons. Including but not limited to...

Obama said that he wouldn't put any boots on the ground in Libya. A lot of us knew that was lie as soon as he said it. And the consulate attack proved beyond any doubt that he was flagrantly lying.

They also showed a disregard for the safety of the ambassador and the e-mails that were released prove that.

The Obama administration turned Benghazi into an Al Qaeda safe haven by providing AQ with air power during their war to oust the Qadaffi government. Not only did Obama illegally go to war in Libya without consent from congress, he picked the wrong side in that civil war. Congress gave their consent to attack AQ not the Qadafi regime. Qadaffi was sending his armed forces to Benghazi to wipe out AQ and we provided the air power that stopped him.

The Obama administration obviously lied about the attack for purely political reasons during the run-up to the election. A coordinated AQ attack on our consulate directly contradicted the TV ads the Obama campaign was running. So they sent Obama's longtime friend Susan Rice on every major network to lie about it and say it was all about a silly video.
 
It's a huge scandal for a plethora of reasons. Including but not limited to...

Obama said that he wouldn't put any boots on the ground in Libya. A lot of us knew that was lie as soon as he said it. And the consulate attack proved beyond any doubt that he was flagrantly lying.

They also showed a disregard for the safety of the ambassador and the e-mails that were released prove that.


First off, the state department is not the military, though they may use military to guard the embasies or consulates. They are not a military attacking force as the military is. Putting some guards for the embassador and the consulate is not actually an invasion. But you also seem to contradict yourself with that ignorance. What do you consider the mistake? Was it that there were diplomats there and that involved him putting some "boots on the ground" for the sake of protection, or was it that there were not enough "boots on the ground." You are doing the dishonest playing of both sides here. Either he was wrong to even start up an embassy and put some military people in the country as you implied in whining about him putting boots on the ground, or he did not put enough troops there to protect the americans you felt should have been there for diplomatixc purposes with the new government we helped to gain power. Pick a side and quit the BS.
The Obama administration turned Benghazi into an Al Qaeda safe haven by providing AQ with air power during their war to oust the Qadaffi government. Not only did Obama illegally go to war in Libya without consent from congress, he picked the wrong side in that civil war. Congress gave their consent to attack AQ not the Qadafi regime. Qadaffi was sending his armed forces to Benghazi to wipe out AQ and we provided the air power that stopped him.

Actually, the attack on libya did not have much to do with AQ at all. This was not part of the war on terror against those who did 9/11 as you imply. In case you forgot khadaffi was quite vocal about his opposition to the terrorists who did 9/11. No, the UN forces decided to assist the rebels in overthrowing the government. For some reason the UN decided to assist them. The US was pretty friendly towards khadaffi having sold weapons to him just months before. I will agree it made little sense for them to join the attack, but they did and they were not the ones in charge so blaming Obama for failures of the attack are really overlooking the reality this was not a US invasion, but rather the US assisting with the invasion other countries lead.

But you are dishonest in your representation of the rebellion in libya, and it is not surprising considering how much dishonesty has been shown in this whole area by the right. It was actually quite legal for the president to use discretionary forces to assist in covering our responsibilities and commitments within the UN, and to assist in UN actions which the president may feel are necessary without the approval of congress. Not to mention congress did a big old stupid during the Bush years in an open ended poorly defined declaration of war with terrorism which gave some severely warped military discretional powers to the president. That was all fine by you years ago when bush was in power, but now it is all of a sudden a problem. None of this is illegal and all of it is necessary or permitted by the constitution and congress. You can claim it is illegal and whatnot, but where is the impeachment and sanctions against obama for these things by the republican controlled congress? Why haven't they done anything in a year since this happened? Why haven't they proposed anything in regards to this so called illegal invasion? Well it is because there was no invasion, and obama was within his powers and they know it.
The Obama administration obviously lied about the attack for purely political reasons during the run-up to the election. A coordinated AQ attack on our consulate directly contradicted the TV ads the Obama campaign was running. So they sent Obama's longtime friend Susan Rice on every major network to lie about it and say it was all about a silly video.

Oh really, and you know this to be fact because of you think it happened that way? Your imaginary friend told you? The voices in your head agree with you? Some guy on the internet told you so? Some guy at faux news thinks it is so? Stop me when i hit the BS reason of your choice. because none of those things matter to me or even constitute anything more than a tinfoil hat conspiracy. Let us say for a moment you actually guessed right, your guesses do not constitute proof in an investigation. You probably couldn't get probable cause to hold up on a faux news story considering how dishonest they are, and there is mounds of proof they have knowingly lied about things. Your personal biases and opinions are not proof. So even if you performed a miracle and actually guessed right on any of these things, this is america and you have to prove it. Beyond that, your opinion is less than reliable. It is most commonly wrong and is obviously biased. So your ideas do not override my common sense which says this was some bad decision making where the US state department overstepped their abilities and got hit for it. On top of that they didn't know all the facts and in an attempt to inform the public told them a theory they were investigating that happened to be wrong. Not an impeachable offense, or even an uncommon one for presidents and the state department. Maybe they should either increase taxes to pay for state department presence in a safer way, or tone back presence in violent countries until they can fund themselves better. Maybe there even was a lie or two going up to the election, but no one was going to pay attention to a couple of white lies with Mittens stream of BS. Mitt lied so damned much he started to confuse himself and forget which lie he was in. he played both sides of every story. perhaps that overshadowed a couple of inconsitencies with obama's story on benghazi. At this point there have been so many lies about benghazi from the right no one can trust you guys.

Oh, and mr. honesty might want to recognize playing the prophet is not something a muslim would do which might tend to influence how a person buys your load of crap.
 
The Asylum version often does. In case you don't get it that is movie terminology not saying you came from an asylum.

The Django you were thinking about and 'my' Jango are worlds apart, sweetheart.

Truth be told, I got the name from the Star Wars bounty hunter, but I have molded him into a character of my own in the novel I am writing, which I started in 2010. So if anything, Django is stealing my heat.
 
The Django you were thinking about and 'my' Jango are worlds apart, sweetheart.

Truth be told, I got the name from the Star Wars bounty hunter, but I have molded him into a character of my own in the novel I am writing, which I started in 2010. So if anything, Django is stealing my heat.

I named my cat Jango for the same reason.
 
BTW, he is the world's worst bounty hunter. He has about 7 flies to his name. Other than that, the animal world taunts him.

That's surprising since felines are such great predators. But, my king shepherd Bosco is afraid of the vacuum and thunder. To each their own, I guess.
 
Maybe if you make about 20 threads for every update there might be a new stary? Only problem is it seems to be a small group of the same people who keeps touting this as important. Perhaps it will become more interesting or actually be watergate if you guys shout louder? I also noticed that supposedly these guys are going to testify to bring down Obama because the news calls them whistleblowers and says the Obama admin may have threatened them (The Obama admin may also be holding the easter bunny hostage) so it seems that they will be bringing down the admin with their testimony of? Oh wait we don't even know if they will contradict the story given by the Obama admin at all.

Well, i guess it is good you shout victory now, sort of like how you declared victory in the presidential election. It will be much harder to claim victory after they testify and Obama is still around. So have fun with your victory party before the loss. I have to admit given your propensity for fail it is probably the best you can get.

Well, maybe if you put up enough threads the DP staff will make a new place for all the benghazi threads. At this point it has to be more pressing than the zimmerman case. Then we can all put this racket where it belongs. It will be 2020 and you will still be hung up on benghazi. Can't you move onto the new conspiracy theory that obama did the boston marathon bombings? What happened to him stealing your guns? benghazi is old and tired at this point, and we have moved on. Please join us in 2013.

Well, what I am opposed to is to keep investigating over and over despite having a clear answer in hopes that the answer will change to the imaginary scenario you have in your mind. If it does not lead to the execution of Obama, his family, and every person who voted for him you will not be satisfied. There is no resolution that will ever satisfy a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut. Even if their wildest dreams of aliens mating with bigfoot to give birth to Obama in kenya is realized there would be a deeper conspiracy of crazy that they would want to investigate. These investigations are best left to TLC or the history channel and not as a distraction from congress doing their jobs. We do not need to give congress yet another excuse why they should fail to produce a budget, but thanks for helping in that area.

You have no evidence there was anything more than a screw up, and that means you do not even know what you are trying to uncover. Not to mention we have heard the doom to obama claims before. You and your comrades have been claiming the next watergate every other week for the past 4 years and you have not even come close. We heard it every day for over a year before the last election. Every time obama sneezed or some republican said something Obama lost the election. It was the end of his presidency, you promised. Look, this is the chicken little/little boy who cried wolf thing on a countrywide level. It is not the end of the world for Obama, and you have not won. You have not even heard any new evidence or testimony. You have no idea what these guys will say. They could come forth and say obama is a great guy and everything was as he said. Not that it would stop you from crying benghazi every two minutes, but you don;'t even know, and you cannot even speculate on what they might say because you cannot even figure out an alternative that means what you wish it does.

I tell you what. If you want me to end up more in the middle with my comments quit feeding so much insanity into the discussion. I have never said the democrats were good by any stretch like the republicons want us to believe the republicons are honest and good people who have our backs. But that doesn't mean they are near equal in levels of stupidity with the republicans presently. You just paint big giant targets on yourselves with all this tinfoil hat BS. You just invite the calls of insanity and stupidity when you endorse these ignorant and dimwitted fools. You have people claiming women's bodies shut down when they are raped, and you make them the head of your science committee. You are the party of family values and morals and you support people like Sanford and gingrich. You claim fiscal responsibility while the last president from your party tanked a stable and growing economy and put us into a recession and billions in debt with 2 wars and he couldn't touch the boogeyman. You claim to be on the side of the american worker while destroying unions and running a corporate dumbass who had destroyed more american jobs than the japanese in the 80s.

So before you go thinking this is a republican democrat thing, your side is screwed up massively. It is FUBAR. Pretending you are a libertarian while clearly being a republican is not going to help you. It just makes the joke that much more funny because you think calling yourself a lib excuses your blind spot for the reps. Obama sucks, you are correct in that aspect, but he doesn't suck anywhere near as much as the alternatives, and the parts that have really failed have been ideas that came from his republican side like continuing the BS wars, keeping Gitmo open, Going with mandatory private insurance instead of universal health care, and bailing out too big to fail businesses. Just because obama did them doesn't mean those were democrat policies. The dems have their own crap, but it is currently nothing like the stupid coming from your republican heroes. So don't blame me for commenting on the much larger pile of BS you seem to think is a big old pile of gold.

you are missing the D in your name.

First off, the state department is not the military, though they may use military to guard the embasies or consulates. They are not a military attacking force as the military is. Putting some guards for the embassador and the consulate is not actually an invasion. But you also seem to contradict yourself with that ignorance. What do you consider the mistake? Was it that there were diplomats there and that involved him putting some "boots on the ground" for the sake of protection, or was it that there were not enough "boots on the ground." You are doing the dishonest playing of both sides here. Either he was wrong to even start up an embassy and put some military people in the country as you implied in whining about him putting boots on the ground, or he did not put enough troops there to protect the americans you felt should have been there for diplomatixc purposes with the new government we helped to gain power. Pick a side and quit the BS.

But you are dishonest in your representation of the rebellion in libya, and it is not surprising considering how much dishonesty has been shown in this whole area by the right. It was actually quite legal for the president to use discretionary forces to assist in covering our responsibilities and commitments within the UN, and to assist in UN actions which the president may feel are necessary without the approval of congress. Not to mention congress did a big old stupid during the Bush years in an open ended poorly defined declaration of war with terrorism which gave some severely warped military discretional powers to the president. That was all fine by you years ago when bush was in power, but now it is all of a sudden a problem. None of this is illegal and all of it is necessary or permitted by the constitution and congress. You can claim it is illegal and whatnot, but where is the impeachment and sanctions against obama for these things by the republican controlled congress? Why haven't they done anything in a year since this happened? Why haven't they proposed anything in regards to this so called illegal invasion? Well it is because there was no invasion, and obama was within his powers and they know it.

Oh really, and you know this to be fact because of you think it happened that way? Your imaginary friend told you? The voices in your head agree with you? Some guy on the internet told you so? Some guy at faux news thinks it is so? Stop me when i hit the BS reason of your choice. because none of those things matter to me or even constitute anything more than a tinfoil hat conspiracy. Let us say for a moment you actually guessed right, your guesses do not constitute proof in an investigation. You probably couldn't get probable cause to hold up on a faux news story considering how dishonest they are, and there is mounds of proof they have knowingly lied about things. Your personal biases and opinions are not proof. So even if you performed a miracle and actually guessed right on any of these things, this is america and you have to prove it. Beyond that, your opinion is less than reliable. It is most commonly wrong and is obviously biased. So your ideas do not override my common sense which says this was some bad decision making where the US state department overstepped their abilities and got hit for it. On top of that they didn't know all the facts and in an attempt to inform the public told them a theory they were investigating that happened to be wrong. Not an impeachable offense, or even an uncommon one for presidents and the state department. Maybe they should either increase taxes to pay for state department presence in a safer way, or tone back presence in violent countries until they can fund themselves better. Maybe there even was a lie or two going up to the election, but no one was going to pay attention to a couple of white lies with Mittens stream of BS. Mitt lied so damned much he started to confuse himself and forget which lie he was in. he played both sides of every story. perhaps that overshadowed a couple of inconsitencies with obama's story on benghazi. At this point there have been so many lies about benghazi from the right no one can trust you guys.

Oh, and mr. honesty might want to recognize playing the prophet is not something a muslim would do which might tend to influence how a person buys your load of crap.

link?

LOL!

seeya at the hearings

expect em to go on for weeks, and if what cbs is reporting turns out to be true, months

why did state dept press spokesperson victoria nuland scrub (according to boston democratic congressman steven lynch and ranking member of pelosi's caucus on house intel dutch ruppersberger) the words "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda" and "ansar al sharia" and "jihad" out of the cia advisory drawn up for the edification of the american people?

why did then secretary of state hillary clinton try to do an end run around her own counterterrorism security group, tasked with "coordinating counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," with deadly consequences, according to foggy bottom's acting deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism, who also testifies that he was frozen out by arb and threatened?

why did barack hussein obama go to bed?

stay tuned
 
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Maybe if you make about 20 threads for every update there might be a new stary? Only problem is it seems to be a small group of the same people who keeps touting this as important. Perhaps it will become more interesting or actually be watergate if you guys shout louder? I also noticed that supposedly these guys are going to testify to bring down Obama because the news calls them whistleblowers and says the Obama admin may have threatened them (The Obama admin may also be holding the easter bunny hostage) so it seems that they will be bringing down the admin with their testimony of? Oh wait we don't even know if they will contradict the story given by the Obama admin at all.

Well, i guess it is good you shout victory now, sort of like how you declared victory in the presidential election. It will be much harder to claim victory after they testify and Obama is still around. So have fun with your victory party before the loss. I have to admit given your propensity for fail it is probably the best you can get.

Who's shouting victory? Other than the victory of allowing these people to tell their story, which the administration seems to want to suppress. You are right on one aspect, and that is that this may all be an exercise in getting the truth of the events out, and in the end that is what it should be. The speculation stems from what we know happens when cover ups are dug into historically.
 
Well, maybe if you put up enough threads the DP staff will make a new place for all the benghazi threads. At this point it has to be more pressing than the zimmerman case. Then we can all put this racket where it belongs. It will be 2020 and you will still be hung up on benghazi. Can't you move onto the new conspiracy theory that obama did the boston marathon bombings? What happened to him stealing your guns? benghazi is old and tired at this point, and we have moved on. Please join us in 2013.

Indeed. We were told what happened by the President and Hillary. An evil person made a movie, put it on you tube and Muslims became upset. The evil doer who made the movies is still in jail. So let's just move on and be thankful we know the truth.
 
The cracks in the wall are expanding.
 
The Django you were thinking about and
'my' Jango are worlds apart, sweetheart.

Truth be told, I got the name from the Star Wars bounty hunter, but I have molded him into a character of my own in the novel I am writing, which I started in 2010. So if anything, Django is stealing my heat.

Some of my favorite Star Wars books involve the Bounty Hunters and the exploits of Jango's "son" Boba.

The Bounty Hunter Wars are a great set.

Iv'e always thought a SW movie series based on Boba Fett if done correctly would appeal to not only the Fan base but movie goers in general.
 
The more facts that come out about Benghazi the madder I get. I just can't imagine the terror those people went through as they waited for help that never came.

Good morning, sawyerloggingon. :2wave:

Not only terror, but the betrayal and abandonment by the government they served would also have been in their thoughts! How very sad to end your life wondering... WHY? ... :thumbdown:
 
Well, what I am opposed to is to keep investigating over and over despite having a clear answer in hopes that the answer will change to the imaginary scenario you have in your mind. If it does not lead to the execution of Obama, his family, and every person who voted for him you will not be satisfied. There is no resolution that will ever satisfy a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut. Even if their wildest dreams of aliens mating with bigfoot to give birth to Obama in kenya is realized there would be a deeper conspiracy of crazy that they would want to investigate. These investigations are best left to TLC or the history channel and not as a distraction from congress doing their jobs. We do not need to give congress yet another excuse why they should fail to produce a budget, but thanks for helping in that area.
your posting history tells a very different story, as you have dismissed this issue outright since it happened..... you have made it crystal clear that you do not support any investigation into the event

whatever else you are blathering about is irrelevent.
You have no evidence there was anything more than a screw up, and that means you do not even know what you are trying to uncover. Not to mention we have heard the doom to obama claims before. You and your comrades have been claiming the next watergate every other week for the past 4 years and you have not even come close. We heard it every day for over a year before the last election. Every time obama sneezed or some republican said something Obama lost the election. It was the end of his presidency, you promised. Look, this is the chicken little/little boy who cried wolf thing on a countrywide level. It is not the end of the world for Obama, and you have not won. You have not even heard any new evidence or testimony. You have no idea what these guys will say. They could come forth and say obama is a great guy and everything was as he said. Not that it would stop you from crying benghazi every two minutes, but you don;'t even know, and you cannot even speculate on what they might say because you cannot even figure out an alternative that means what you wish it does.

you are correct, we have no evidence is was anything more than a screw up.... oddly enough, the manner in which evidence is gathered is called an "investigation".. which you oppose.
I haven't cried about Bhengazi once.... you are resorting to lies once again.... please, tell the voices in your head to STFU and listen to what i say, not what the voices think i'm going ot say or hope i said.
I would ask you for proof of your accusation against me, but we both no it does not exist and we both know you are making **** up


I tell you what. If you want me to end up more in the middle with my comments quit feeding so much insanity into the discussion. I have never said the democrats were good by any stretch like the republicons want us to believe the republicons are honest and good people who have our backs. But that doesn't mean they are near equal in levels of stupidity with the republicans presently. You just paint big giant targets on yourselves with all this tinfoil hat BS. You just invite the calls of insanity and stupidity when you endorse these ignorant and dimwitted fools. You have people claiming women's bodies shut down when they are raped, and you make them the head of your science committee. You are the party of family values and morals and you support people like Sanford and gingrich. You claim fiscal responsibility while the last president from your party tanked a stable and growing economy and put us into a recession and billions in debt with 2 wars and he couldn't touch the boogeyman. You claim to be on the side of the american worker while destroying unions and running a corporate dumbass who had destroyed more american jobs than the japanese in the 80s.
none of this is relevant to Bhengazi... keep your insane yammering to your self .. take meds, get high, do whatever it takes to gain some semblance of sanity.
So before you go thinking this is a republican democrat thing, your side is screwed up massively. It is FUBAR. Pretending you are a libertarian while clearly being a republican is not going to help you. It just makes the joke that much more funny because you think calling yourself a lib excuses your blind spot for the reps. Obama sucks, you are correct in that aspect, but he doesn't suck anywhere near as much as the alternatives, and the parts that have really failed have been ideas that came from his republican side like continuing the BS wars, keeping Gitmo open, Going with mandatory private insurance instead of universal health care, and bailing out too big to fail businesses. Just because obama did them doesn't mean those were democrat policies. The dems have their own crap, but it is currently nothing like the stupid coming from your republican heroes. So don't blame me for commenting on the much larger pile of BS you seem to think is a big old pile of gold.

I'm a Libertarian... and I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to understand that, or the honesty to understand that I know me far better than you do....feel free to keep lying though, I'll be around to correct your lies as they appear.

you're an Obama sycophant and a Democratic Party Loyalist. you are fooling no one here... not anyone that has read your posts anyways.
 
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