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Official: We knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack "from the get-go"

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Coverup, and lies...

My bet is it was all due to the election.


There is a decent 13min vid of Schieffer with Issa and others. He even uses the "C" word... coverup... Journalism a little late... way late.

Face the Nation transcript: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_16...i-and-gay-athletes-issa-rogers-ruppersberger/
Greg Hicks: I thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go. I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning.

Question: ...Did you ever have any indication that there was a protest, a popular protest, outside the mission in Benghazi?

Greg Hicks: No question.

Question: And if there was such a protest, would that have been reported?:

Greg Hicks: Absolutely... for there to have been a demonstration on Chris Stevens' front door and him not to have reported it is unbelievable.

Bob Schieffer: So Mr. Issa, why would the administration put out a storyline that was so different from what US officials in Libya knew immediately?

Darrell Issa: Bob, that's the great question . We can't find a classified reason for it, we can't find a diplomatic reason for it. Understand that Gregory Hicks, who became the charge, became the acting Ambassador, witnessed our relationship with Libya on this show go the wrong way. Because on this show, Susan Rice says, it was a protest. Well the President, the elected President saying, no it's a terrorist attack. You can't insult a foreign leader in a greater way than happened literally here, just those few days later.

Bob Schieffer: But do you think they were trying to cover...

"...I've never been as embarrassed in my life, in my career, as on that day," Hicks continued in his interview with investigators. "The net impact of what has transpired is, [Rice,] the spokesperson of the most powerful country in the world, has basically said that the president of Libya is either a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about. ....My jaw hit the floor as I watched this."

"Everybody in the mission" in Benghazi, Libya, thought the attack on a U.S. consulate there last Sept. 11 was an act of terror "from the get-go," according to excerpts of an interview investigators conducted with the No. 2 official in Libya at the time, obtained by CBS News' "Face the Nation."

Official: We knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack "from the get-go" - CBS News



[h=1]Dem Rep. on Benghazi Talking Points: 'It Was Scrubbed ... It Was False Information. There's No Excuse For That.'[/h]
Democratic congressman Stephen Lynch said this morning on TV that Susan Rice used "scrubbed" talking points on Benghazi to deliver "false information" to the American people:

"Absolutely, they were false, they were wrong," said Lynch, after being asked about Steve Hayes's report on "The Benghazi Talking Points."
"There were no protests outside the Benghazi compound there. This was a deliberate and strategic attack on the consulate there," said the Democratic congressman.


"It was false information. There's no excuse for that."

Dem Rep. on Benghazi Talking Points: 'It Was Scrubbed ... It Was False Information. There's No Excuse For That.' | The Weekly Standard
 
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Wait, is this what you people have been whining about all along? Whether or not it was labeled a terrorist attack?
 
Wait, is this what you people have been whining about all along? Whether or not it was labeled a terrorist attack?

Coverup.
Delays.
Flat-out Lies.
Threats.
Taking the death of 4 Americans and lying for political purposes.

And as Schieffer asked... "why were the talking points changed?" Election2012.

My question is why did the supposed press have to be dragged into this kicking and screaming? Election2012.

Wasn't it evil FOX NEWS that broke and pursued this story when the remainder of the press were on the sidelines picking away at their nostrils?

And another aspect:
Darrell Issa: And ambassadors know that the one thing you don't do is contradict your host, especially at a time when you need their cooperation. This was a fatal error to our relationship at least for a period of time and we can't find the purpose. Secretary Clinton should have been above all else, the person who was on the same sheet of music with the Libyan government and she wasn't.

Bob Schieffer: Well, Mr. Hicks' had also testified that he had called Beth Jones, the Acting Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs at the state department, the morning after these Sunday shows and he asked her,

Gregory Hicks: Why did Ambassador Rice say that?

And Beth Jones told him, "I don't know." So Mr. Hicks is saying that a key State Department official said she didn't know why the Ambassador has indicated the attacks were spontaneous.

Darrell Issa: Not only that, he indicated in his testimony that these were unwelcome. That he felt very much like Beth Jones didn't want to hear from him, and in the days and weeks to come, that continued. One of the amazing things is, here you have the person on the ground who probably, of anyone in Tripoli knows more about what was going on, he's never seen the classified ARB report. They have not let him see it. So when he says that that is a flawed report, he says so with the same information we have publicly--
 
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The mainstream media blackout on this story will proceed in an inverse relationship to the amount of damaging information that comes out.

At the conclusion, when the most damning information of all is released, the MSM story will be that this has all been hashed over in the past and it's an annoyance to cover it again.
 
Coverup, and lies...

My bet is it was all due to the election.


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The White House cover up was all about getting Obama reelected, it's a no brainer.

What the hearings that will be taking place this Wednesday in Congress on why the military wasn't allowed to respond on 9-11-12 are probably going to reveal that "Commander and Chief" Barack Obama is guilty of Article 92 of the UCMJ, "Dereliction of Duty."
 
Just because one person posts 50 threads on the subject doesn't mean there is lots of people caring about it. Yes, you yell loud, but that does not mean there is a huge uproar about this. That really makes you more like the small child having a meltdown in a store. Yes, it is loud and everyone around hears it, but most are really around waiting for the child's parents to lose it and beat the crap out of their brat, and making comments about how stupid the child is.

Oh wait, I think I heard someone in Utah said benghazi you better post another thread.
 
Just because one person posts 50 threads on the subject doesn't mean there is lots of people caring about it. Yes, you yell loud, but that does not mean there is a huge uproar about this. That really makes you more like the small child having a meltdown in a store. Yes, it is loud and everyone around hears it, but most are really around waiting for the child's parents to lose it and beat the crap out of their brat, and making comments about how stupid the child is.

Oh wait, I think I heard someone in Utah said benghazi you better post another thread.

Please consider this and answer honestly, would you be as unconcerned if George Bush was president when this happened?
 
Just because one person posts 50 threads on the subject doesn't mean there is lots of people caring about it. Yes, you yell loud, but that does not mean there is a huge uproar about this. That really makes you more like the small child having a meltdown in a store. Yes, it is loud and everyone around hears it, but most are really around waiting for the child's parents to lose it and beat the crap out of their brat, and making comments about how stupid the child is.

Oh wait, I think I heard someone in Utah said benghazi you better post another thread.

Nah that wasn't Utah.....that was California and it was Jack Nicholson. Then he said something about people not being able to handle the Truth, or something like that.
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Nah that wasn't Utah.....that was California and it was Jack Nicholson. Then he said something about people not being able to handle the Truth, or something like that.
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I totally agree, some people cannot handle the truth that the US had weak security that was capitalized on by a bunch of terrorists in an unstable country.
 
This is the crack in the damn, the chink in the armor, there is a whole bunch more coming out on this and soon so hold onto your hats it's gonna be a wild ride.

I doubt it.. The conspiracy theorists have made hash out of the actual timeline... and the lies are so obvious.

This ranks up there with birthers, truthers, BigFoot and Chemtrails.
 
This is the crack in the damn, the chink in the armor, there is a whole bunch more coming out on this and soon so hold onto your hats it's gonna be a wild ride.

Kinda bringing on flashbacks of 1973 after Nixon was reelected, Watergate.

Except no one was killed during the Watergate break in or during the cover up.

####, Nixon didn't even know about the break in until after it happened while Obama watched the live feed from an UAV that was above Benghazi while our consulate was under attack.
 
Would you be this concerned?

ABSOLUTELY! Clinton's 'I didn't have sexual relations with that woman', Bush's WMD assertion both infuriated me. Of course we don't know what EXACTLY happened and much is speculated but that is kinda the point. Is our intelligence arm so weak that we cannot figure out what happened 6 months later? One hopes and believes their leader is somewhat honest but unfortunately they are not which undermines government support. It certainly somewhat supports the recent poll where 27% think an armed uprising is in our near future.
 
Libya, US divided over deadly Benghazi attack.....

US and Libya offer conflicting explanations over an attack on US Consulate in Benghazi last week. The ongoing anti-American demonstrations, caused by a film mocking Prophet Muhammed, claim lives across the Muslim world.

The deadly assault on a U.S. consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. said, even as Libya’s president insisted the attackers spent months preparing and carefully choosing their date -- the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But Ambassador Susan Rice said on Sept. 16 that evidence gathered so far shows no indication of a premeditated or coordinated strike. She said the attack in Benghazi, powered by mortars and rocket-propelled grenades, appeared to be a copycat of demonstrations that had erupted hours earlier outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

Rice’s depiction of the chain of events contrasted with one offered by Libya’s Interim President Mohammed el-Megarif, who said on Sept. 16 there was no doubt the perpetrators had predetermined the date of the attack.

It was planned, definitely. It was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago,” el-Megarif said. “And they were planning this criminal act since their arrival.” Meanwhile, Libya’s interior minister has sacked Benghazi security chiefs after the attack U.S. consulate last week.....snip~

INTERNATIONAL - Libya, US divided over deadly Benghazi attack

Imagine that.....Libya was saying that it was planned all along too.
 
Would you be this concerned?

Due to lax security and ignoring reports from his intelligence community GWB allowed the biggest US civilian death toll from a single attack on american soil on september 11th 2001. Of course, the right doesn't like blaming GWB for that but if Obama is this responsible for benghazi certainly GWB is that responsible for 9/11. Still benghazi didn't happen in the continental US, nor did we have control over the areas where it did happen like we did with 9/11, but that just makes 9/11 all the worse for george.
 
Please consider this and answer honestly, would you be as unconcerned if George Bush was president when this happened?

This is just like waiting for the lottery results. Tererun's response should be interesting but probably predictable.
 
ABSOLUTELY! Clinton's 'I didn't have sexual relations with that woman', Bush's WMD assertion both infuriated me. Of course we don't know what EXACTLY happened and much is speculated but that is kinda the point. Is our intelligence arm so weak that we cannot figure out what happened 6 months later? One hopes and believes their leader is somewhat honest but unfortunately they are not which undermines government support. It certainly somewhat supports the recent poll where 27% think an armed uprising is in our near future.

In another poll 99 percent of people who think an armed uprising is in our future are all talk. I would also love to ask, how often did you call for the truth to 9/11 to come out, and why are you not being as hard on good old george now that we know he ignored intelligence that pointed to the 9/11 attacks? It is not like benghazi where it was in a foreign country we had little control over and no budget for. nope, 9/11 was in america and actually got by a number of military facilities. So did you object to the cover up of 9/11 like you have with benghazi?
 
Due to lax security and ignoring reports from his intelligence community GWB allowed the biggest US civilian death toll from a single attack on american soil on september 11th 2001. Of course, the right doesn't like blaming GWB for that but if Obama is this responsible for benghazi certainly GWB is that responsible for 9/11. Still benghazi didn't happen in the continental US, nor did we have control over the areas where it did happen like we did with 9/11, but that just makes 9/11 all the worse for george.

Just what I expected, your typical liberal response.

No mention that it was President Clinton's Attorney General Reno who put of the "wall" so the dots couldn't be connected.

If you actually read the 9/11 Commission Report, every President going back to Carter gets those same warnings every morning.

BTW: It was liberal political correctness that allowed the terrorist to board those planes on the morning of 9-11-01.
 
I doubt it.. The conspiracy theorists have made hash out of the actual timeline... and the lies are so obvious.

This ranks up there with birthers, truthers, BigFoot and Chemtrails.


Oh you mean Team Obama has made hash out of the Actual Time line.....and yes their Lies are so Obvious. See at First Obama said there was no ties to AQ. But then his Own Team.....were the Ones that stated they thought AQ out of Iraq may have been responsible.

US Intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq.....

U.S. intelligence believes that assailants connected to al Qaeda in Iraq were among the core group that attacked the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, a U.S. government official told CNN.

That would represent the second al Qaeda affiliate associated with the deadly September 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Previously, intelligence officials said there were signs of connections to al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African wing of the terror group.

The revelation that members of al Qaeda in Iraq are suspected of involvement in the Libya attack comes at a time when there is a growing number of fighters from that group also taking part in the Syrian civil war.

The weakened al Qaeda affiliate has had a resurgence in Iraq since U.S. forces left the country at the end of last year. The group had used Libya as a source for fighters. In a 2008 cable, Stevens described a nearby town of Derna as "a wellspring of Libyan foreign fighters" for al Qaeda in Iraq.

The latest intelligence suggests the core group of suspects from the first wave of the attack on the Benghazi mission numbered between 35 to 40. Around a dozen of the attackers are believed to be connected to either al Qaeda in Iraq or al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the government official said.

According to the official, others in the core group are suspected of having ties to the Libyan group Ansar al-Sharia, and many of them are believed to be Egyptian jihadis.

And just two hours later, one of the e-mails indicated the Libyan extremist group Ansar al Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack on social media websites. "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the e-mail said.

Moreover, intelligence officials do not believe Ansar al-Sharia is solely responsible with indications now that some of the attackers were associated with al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and an Egyptian jihad network.....snip~

US Intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq - CNN.com

Nice try with the conspiracy theory. There is no getting round Team Obama changing the talking points. Course that's exactly what the left wants most of those low information voters to think.

Oh Note the Date.....updated 8:31 PM EDT, Wed October 24, 2012
 
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Just because there are many threads on the subject doesn't mean Libs will give a damn about it. We won't. We are immune to the truth. The truth will not set us free. We enjoy and wallow in our ignorance and denial. We love to wallow. Git it?

Yes, you yell loud, but that does not mean there is a huge uproar about this because Benghazi "was a long time ago". And hey! We only accept loud yelling about Bush and Republicans. For this there is no statute of limitations and no restrictions on how much we can bash that prick. Fer eem, it is never a long time ago. That's why we believe our King Il Dong when he blames Bush. Git it?

That really makes you more like the small child having a meltdown in a store because we do not give a damn that our King Il Ding Dong has lied, deceived and covered up to gain power. We really do not care. Not in the least. We embrace the motto of that great Oakland Raiders chief Al Davis... just win baby. Lie, cheat, steal... we don't care. Git it?

Yes, it is loud for us Libs and everyone around hears it... though we will not admit it, for we are immune... or pretend to be, but most are really around the child's parents to lose it and beat the crap out of their brat because we are tolerant and open minded and non-violent PETA types who advocate abusing children and abortion and the like, and generally enjoy making comments about how stupid the child of Bush 41 is. Let's rephrase that; the truth is stupid. In other words, we are frustrated that some folks on the right are trying to force feed us the truth. It's not going to work. We have Kool-Aid... WE ARE IMMUNE! Git IT?

Oh wait gotta head to the fridge... Kool-Aid is getting low, hey... I think I heard someone in Utah... never mind... it was the cat... And the cat said benghazi! Small "b" too... so you better cool it or we will go postal if you try and force feed us another thread about William Ayers... I mean Wright... ah... err... ah... nevermind I can''t remember. Hey a-hole... don't Bogart the doobie... and ahhh hell, where's my Kool-Aid... damn... quick... the immunity thang is wearing off.

I take it you don't like people talking about Benghazi? Tough darts honey. Dead Americans and a coverup demand folks like you be kept up to date... up to the minute. After months of coverup... It's a fast breaking story now. Even some journ-O-lists have been forced to cover it thanks to the work of those men and women at FOX NEWS. Thank them.

Hate to destroy your Kool-Aid tainted world... but someone has to do it.

Stay tuned... a right winger somewhere will help educate you in your hour(s), days, weeks, years of denial. We are here to assist those who require it most.
 
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I totally agree, some people on the left cannot handle the truth that Obama was caught with his pants down and dick out as the US had weak security because his administration denied sufficient defense in a terror zone that was capitalized on by a bunch of terrorists who were pissed about a non-video video (not really) in an unstable country... er known terror laden zone. It doesn't bother us though... because he's our King Il Ding Dong and we love him so. VIVA!.
 
Whats really funny is now.....they say(Team Obama) that it was AQ out of Yemen. :shock:

Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack.....

Several Yemeni men belonging to al Qaeda took part in the terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi last September, according to several sources who have spoken with CNN.

One senior U.S. law enforcement official told CNN that "three or four members of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula," or AQAP, took part in the attack.

Another source briefed on the Benghazi investigation said Western intelligence services suspect the men may have been sent by the group specifically to carry out the attack. But it's not been ruled out that they were already in the city and participated as the opportunity arose.....snip~

Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

If the AQAP members were dispatched to Benghazi, it would be further evidence of a new level of co-operation among jihadist groups throughout the Middle East and North Africa, counterterrorism analysts say.

According to one source, counterterrorism officials learned the identity of the men and established they had spent two nights in Benghazi after the attack. Western intelligence agencies began trying to track the men in the aftermath of the terrorist attack, but were always behind in their manhunt.

They were later traced to northern Mali, where they are believed to have connected with a fighting group commanded by Moktar Belmoktar, a prominent jihadist leader, according to a senior law enforcement source.

The trail appears to have then gone cold. In early 2013, jihadists were driven out of many areas of northern Mali in a French-led offensive......snip~
 
AQAP is regarded as one of the most active and dangerous of al Qaeda franchises. It has tried to launch several attacks on the U.S. homeland. On Christmas Day 2009, a Nigerian recruited by the group attempted to blow up a plane flying into Detroit but failed because his device malfunctioned. The following October the group attempted to blow up planes heading to the United States with printer bombs disguised as air cargo. The packages were intercepted after a tip from Saudi intelligence. And in April 2012, a British informant working for Saudi counterterrorism thwarted a new plot by the group to bomb a U.S-bound airliner. The informant had infiltrated the group and was selected by them to launch the attack.

AQAP was the first al Qaeda affiliate to comment on the Benghazi attack. On September 14 it released a statement arguing the attack was revenge for the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi, a senior al Qaeda operative, in Pakistan in June 2012. It did not claim responsibility for the attack.

On September 10 -- at least 18 hours before the attack -- al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, in a video timed for the anniversary of 9/11, called for attacks on Americans in Libya to avenge the death of al-Libi.

In December, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the investigation said authorities were examining whether the alleged leader of a post-revolution terrorist network in Egypt had played a role in the September 11 attack. Mohammed Jamal Abu Ahmed was released from jail after the downfall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and is believed to be the driving force behind a new militant group, according to two U.S. officials.

In the wake of the revolts that have shaken the Arab world, al Qaeda sympathizers have found new space in which to operate, and would-be jihadists have found new causes to embrace. In Syria, the al-Nusra Front has proclaimed its links to the al Qaeda affiliate in Iraq. Militants from Tunisia, Libya and elsewhere have gone to Syria. In west Africa, Nigerian jihadists with Boko Haram have established links with al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and trained in Mali.

If AQAP sent members thousands of miles to help launch an attack on U.S. diplomats, it would show that even if al Qaeda central remains under pressure, its fellow travelers are finding new ways to continue its campaign of terror.....snip~

Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack - CNN.com

http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...es-photos-three-men-benghazi-attack-site.html

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