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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This type of talk here is what seriously frustrates me. Americans are attached at the hip to Israel...especially the religious right...it is annoying. Israel can take care of themselves. They don't need us and we don't need them.

    We don't have the money to keep financing their military. We don't have enough to finance our own damn military. Let Israel deal with their own issues. They are fully capable of dealing with and potential threat in their area.
    Indeed...well said.

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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This type of talk here is what seriously frustrates me. Americans are attached at the hip to Israel...especially the religious right...it is annoying. Israel can take care of themselves. They don't need us and we don't need them.

    We don't have the money to keep financing their military. We don't have enough to finance our own damn military. Let Israel deal with their own issues. They are fully capable of dealing with and potential threat in their area.
    In most cases no country "needs" any other country. But it is mutually beneficial to both us and Israel for us to support each other. I am neither a rightist nor religious, but I think that not only is support for Israel the moral thing to do, but can strengthen the United States as well.
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This type of talk here is what seriously frustrates me. Americans are attached at the hip to Israel...especially the religious right...it is annoying. Israel can take care of themselves. They don't need us and we don't need them.

    We don't have the money to keep financing their military. We don't have enough to finance our own damn military. Let Israel deal with their own issues. They are fully capable of dealing with and potential threat in their area.
    We would have more than enough money... the problem is our Socialist/Demokrats have pissed oceans of it away on social engineering. Limited government does not cause the deep hole we are in.
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    nyt today---obama is an idiot

    Confronted with evidence that chemical weapons have been used in Syria, President Obama now finds himself in a geopolitical box, his credibility at stake with frustratingly few good options.

    In a frenetic series of meetings, the White House devised a 48-hour plan to deter President Bashar al-Assad of Syria by using intermediaries like Russia and Iran to send a message that one official summarized as, “Are you crazy?” But when Mr. Obama emerged to issue the public version of the warning, he went further than many aides realized he would.

    Moving or using large quantities of chemical weapons would cross a “red line” and “change my calculus,” the president declared in response to a question at a news conference, to the surprise of some of the advisers who had attended the weekend meetings and wondered where the “red line” came from. With such an evocative phrase, the president had defined his policy in a way some advisers wish they could take back.

    “The idea was to put a chill into the Assad regime without actually trapping the president into any predetermined action,” said one senior official, who, like others, discussed the internal debate on the condition of anonymity. But “what the president said in August was unscripted,” another official said. Mr. Obama was thinking of a chemical attack that would cause mass fatalities, not relatively small-scale episodes like those now being investigated, except the “nuance got completely dropped.”

    As a result, the president seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance to the Syrian rebels, even though he rejected such a policy just months ago. American officials have even discussed with European allies the prospect of airstrikes to take out Syrian air defenses, airplanes and missile delivery systems, if government use of chemical weapons is confirmed.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/wo...ough-spot.html

    obama's "off the cuff" remark puts him "in a bind," and "as a result" us policy "seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance"

    another "frenetic series of meetings" the saturday nite before susan-rice-sunday resulted in the state dept stripping all pertinent truth out of a cia advisory written up for the edification of the american people

    it appears "frenetic series of meetings" is this white house's standard operating response to exigency

    or so suggests the nyt

    crossing the red line did not include "relatively small scale episodes" of SARIN GAS?

    there are "relatively small scale" uses of SARIN?

    relative to what?

    syria, says nyt, is becoming "the most urgent foreign policy issue of his 2nd term"

    it appears we can look forward to a lot more frenetic meetings

    "after 2 years of ineffectual diplomacy," obama's "off the cuff" reference to his red line "underscores the improvisational nature of mr obama's approach"

    in other words, what an idiot

    "all the more striking for a president who relishes precision"

    oh, which president is that?

    you have to "worry about the broader damage to us credibility," advises the gray lady

    if you wanna come across as responsible, that is

    that would absolve this white house

    as one senior staffer puts it: "if he drops sarin on his own people what's that got to do with us"

    they forgot: Into Libya: The birth of an Obama doctrine | The Economist

    he was actually considering a pre emptive strike in august!

    why not, he's taken the rest of the bush doctrine to extremes

    Eric Holder: Drone Strike To Kill U.S. Citizen On American Soil Legal

    so why, wonders the lady

    how could such a deep deliberator do something so dumb?

    he kinda confused it all with iran, she supposes

    netanyahu's poster at the un

    the white house, meanwhile, is trying to figure out why assad would go chemical

    he's always been so "capable of rational thought"

    indeed, "pro govt militias using knives and guns are capable of inflicting many times the deaths attributed to chemical weapons..."

    "so far"

    so obama ponders weaponizing the rebels

    except "there is plenty of evidence that the opposition is becoming more, not less, radical over time"

    all boxed in

    cuzza an off the cuff cough

    can you deny it?

    what a dummy

    embarrassed yet?

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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    It looks as though the Presidents lack of political experience before his first election is coming around to bite him in the ass.
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    We would have more than enough money... the problem is our Socialist/Demokrats have pissed oceans of it away on social engineering. Limited government does not cause the deep hole we are in.
    I agree limited government doesn't cause the deep hole we're in. Since when have we had a limited government? Hmm? I don't think we have in a LOOONG time.

    Democrats piss our money away in entitlements. Republicans piss our money away in overspending on Defense...
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    In most cases no country "needs" any other country. But it is mutually beneficial to both us and Israel for us to support each other. I am neither a rightist nor religious, but I think that not only is support for Israel the moral thing to do, but can strengthen the United States as well.
    Sure we can support them with rhetoric...not funds
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I agree limited government doesn't cause the deep hole we're in. Since when have we had a limited government? Hmm? I don't think we have in a LOOONG time.
    Pre WWII.

    Democrats piss our money away in entitlements. Republicans piss our money away in overspending on Defense...
    The difference is...military spending is what they are allowed to do in Limited Government... our founders never had a socialist welfare state in mind.

    We could afford a ton of military waste with limited government. Now we can barely afford the printing presses that keep pumping out ObamaBucks.
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    Re: Israel launches airstrike into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Sure we can support them with rhetoric...not funds
    I disagree. Trading with them means we have a stable ally in the region that we can truly call a liberal democracy. I'm sure we exchange intelligence, not just money and arms.
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