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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If you use ObamaCare to reduce employees hours by over 25% to avoid ObamaCare, then them additional part-time employees for those hours constitutes "new jobs."

    So let's cheer millions of Americans being made part=time employees and losing all benefits!!!! Yahoo!
    I was wondering if those were going to be called new jobs. There is no way around not calling them that.

    I think you are right though.
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    You didn't look very hard: Intervention Analysis in Seasonal Adjustment

    No, the C-CPI has been published for many years. Obama has proposed changing the basis of Social Security COLA from teh CPI-W to the C-CPI-U.
    Because it's well known that a Laspeyres type index will overstate the change in cost of living.
    Look, if you are not going to bother to even read my posts, then please do not waste my time by answering them (so I have to read it).

    1) Your link is for the CPI...I was referring to the employment numbers in that part.

    2) What in Earth are you talking about...I said that the CPI model was going to be changed to the C-CPI-U right in the part you quoted.

    3) And again. I was talking about the GDP...NOT the CPI there. It stated it right in the portion you quoted...'GDP'.

    More reading, less typing.


    Have a more attentive day.
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    1) Your link is for the CPI...I was referring to the GDP in that part.
    There was no way to infer that from your post. You wrote "The government has admitted that it has changed the 'seasonal adjustments'...but they refuse to say exactly how they have changed them." and then you immediately talked about the CPI.

    2) Duh...I said that the CPI model was going to be changed to the C-CPI-U.
    Please be more precise in your terms. You didn't specify which CPI model or changed for what purpose. The C-CPI-U is already a seperate model, so noting needs to be changed to it. It is unclear if you were referring to the headline CPI-U, or the CPI-W used for SS COLA, or what.
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    There was no way to infer that from your post. You wrote "The government has admitted that it has changed the 'seasonal adjustments'...but they refuse to say exactly how they have changed them." and then you immediately talked about the CPI.

    Please be more precise in your terms. You didn't specify which CPI model or changed for what purpose. The C-CPI-U is already a seperate model, so noting needs to be changed to it. It is unclear if you were referring to the headline CPI-U, or the CPI-W used for SS COLA, or what.
    The post you quoted was in response to e351 - and it started as the following 'Fudging the CPI, GDP, and Jobs figures? Who can you trust nowadays??'

    So I was answering these three points - not in exact order.


    The first part was in reference to the previous post to e351.

    The second part was clear (imo)...I was referring to the new model the government used for the CPI.

    And the third part?

    Are you going to admit that you flat out missed that one? It said right in the first sentence 'GDP'?


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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The post you quoted was in response to e351 - and it started as the following 'Fudging the CPI, GDP, and Jobs figures? Who can you trust nowadays??'

    So I was answering these three points - not in exact order.
    And you didn't specify which part you were addressing when.


    The first part was in reference to the previous post to e351.
    No idea which one that was.

    The second part was clear (imo)...I was referring to the new model the government used for the CPI.
    Which new model? A cite would be helpful. The C-CPI is not a new model, and I am not aware of any proposed changes to the CPI. The Consumer Expenditure Survey is being revamped, but that's not the same thing.

    And the third part?

    Are you going to admit that you flat out missed that one? It said right in the first sentence 'GDP'?.
    I hadn't meant to address that at all...it was an editing error
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think you have. I seem to remember when it was going bad under Bush hearing these very same arguments, only in reverse. I was consistent then, saying presidents don't control the economy.

    Being against TARP is one thing. Calling him a socialist communist Muslim for doing it is quite another.
    Ok, please show me where I called him a "socialist communist Muslim"..... You can't. Saying that Obama's thinking, or vision of America comports more readily with that of socialist thought models, is not calling him anything.

    Also, if you think that I have said something in my posting that is untrue as to my line of thought in the past, then post it, otherwise your innuendo is just bull, and you know it.
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    And you didn't specify which part you were addressing when.


    No idea which one that was.

    Which new model? A cite would be helpful. The C-CPI is not a new model, and I am not aware of any proposed changes to the CPI. The Consumer Expenditure Survey is being revamped, but that's not the same thing.


    I hadn't meant to address that at all...it was an editing error
    I never typed ANYTHING about ANY particular CPI model except the C-CPI-U. You saw something that did not exist. And instead of just being mature and admitting your mistake - I know everyone makes mistakes - you are making excuses.

    As for the rest, whatever - I already wasted time on this nonsense.


    Next time you quote a post of mine - please read it more carefully. If you do not - your posts will be ignored after that.

    I am done with you on this.


    Have a nice day.

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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I never typed ANYTHING about ANY particular CPI model except the C-CPI-U.
    You wrote: "I said that the CPI model was going to be changed to the C-CPI-U." I do not know where you got that idea and if you were referring to the CPI-U, the CPI-W or both. I am not aware of any such proposal.

    You tried to clarify by saying: "I was referring to the new model the government used for the CPI."
    I have no idea what you're referring to. When?

    A link to the BLS announcement or a news report would be useful. Otherwise, I have no idea what you're referring to, because to the best of my knowledge, which includes talking to the CPI folks at BLS, there is no such proposed change.
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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, please show me where I called him a "socialist communist Muslim"..... You can't. Saying that Obama's thinking, or vision of America comports more readily with that of socialist thought models, is not calling him anything.

    Also, if you think that I have said something in my posting that is untrue as to my line of thought in the past, then post it, otherwise your innuendo is just bull, and you know it.
    Oh, I'm sure you've wet the socialist route, but this isn't just about you. Just as do above. His thinking is no more socialist than Bush's was. There is really no major difference between the parties. This tactic by your side of the isle is nothing more that an outdated, weak attempt to marginalize without having to actually engage in the larger and more accurate debate.

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    Re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Did the Reagan recession involve corrupt
    securities which were rated AAA circulated throughout the financial industry? because of this credit markets frozen?
    BWHAHAHAHAHA !! That the corrupt Democrat Franklin Raines packaged and distributed ?

    You DO realize Fannie was the first to package and distribute MBSs and started in 1997 right ?

    You DO realize by 2004 Fannie Mae owned 40% of ALL private MBSs right ?

    Unbelievable you Democrats are so lacking of fundamental pertinent infomation.

    Without the Democrats mandating of lower lending standards for banks and the GSEs there would not have been a bubble and without a bubble those securities would have been worthless.

    You should do a little research and find out WHO asked for those securities to be Tripple AAA rated.

    You need a hint ? It wasnt GW Bush

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