You are so confused, govt spending as a component of the economy and on a per capitia level has declined, the idea that govt should shrink as the country increases in size is silly, a false premise. In the 90's we had higher rates, increased revenues, declining deficits, lowered spending to gdp levels.Let me know when during the last 50 years higher taxes generated higher revenue and less National Debt and not just more spending.
I'm not in the short term.If you are concerned about debt then why wouldn't you have a problem with a 3.77 trillion dollar budget?
Complete falsehood, employment levels had stabilized in 2010.Employment remained in free fall in 2010-2011 when over a million people per month were discouraged workers not counted as unemployed so tell me does a discouraged worker make one less unemployed?
Finally a concession!Yes, demand is holding back growth and that is due to 21.5 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers along with millions and millions on food stamps and other forms of taxpayer welfare.
Is the new normal high unemployment? low economic growth? massive govt. debt? greater dependence on the taxpayer?
just a buncha nonsensical questions
all ya need to know
party on, progressives
why can't the obama recovery create enough jobs even to keep up with population growth?
why are 1/5 of april's jobs temp?
why are so many workers forced into part time?
why are more than half those who do find something paid near minimum wage?
why can't obama say the word stimulus?
when's the last time you heard him talk about the need to invest?
why did fisker fail?
why can't 50 million americans feed themselves?
why does obama want to raise taxes on the middle class?
why have 1.6 million americans dropped out of the work force in the last 6 months?
Last edited by The Prof; 05-05-13 at 01:56 PM.
And by the way, I didn't ignore discouraged workers, I included them in another chart showing that Obama still performs better than his Republican counter parts when using the U6 rate.
As far as discouraged workers under Reagan, I don't know, how many were there?
And again, you continue to deflect away from your nonsensical claim that 9 million jobs were lost under Obama.
I thought you said you admit when you're wrong, as I had done.
They're not unemployed at all because they're not trying to get ajob...they're Not in the Labor Force.Do you think a discourage worker is any less unemployed?
How are you getting that from what I wrote? I'm giving you the actual numbers, not the false numbers you were claiming. I've said nothing about good or bad.So let me see if I have this right, the discouraged worker number when Obama took office was 734,000 and in April 2013 it was over 800,000 and Obama has added 6 trillion to the debt but that is a good thing?
It's not. Everyone in the labor force wants a job. That's kind of the definition of the labor force: Wanting a job and doing something about working. And the labor force has gone up 1 million.How do you know the number of people in the labor force who want a job is up 700,000?
There are some people not in the labor force who say they want a job (this includes the discouraged) but aren't actually doing anything about it. The number of people NOT in the Labor Force who say they want a job has increased 700,000: from 5.7 million to 6.4 million.
Yes they do...and they are in the labor force.What about the over 11 million unemployed? Do they want a job?
Do you not understand the definitions?
Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.
LOL!the idea that govt should shrink as the country increases in size is silly
not if the govt is too big to begin with
hey, why does ap say this is "by far" the slowest economic recovery in american history?
not enough krugman?
spoken like a genuine personality whoreI thought you said you admit when you're wrong
why do wsj and nyt say that the april jobs report doesn't come close to turning around a depressed jobs market?
hey, per bloomberg---dominos is hiring 1000's!
I notice how threads like this appear whenever there's good news. On Friday, we learned that February and March's employment numbers were revised upwards by over 100,000 jobs and Apr saw an increase of 165,000. We saw the Dow hit a new all-time high. We saw the S&P500 hit a new all-time high. And now we're seeing the righties hunting for any bad news they can find to counter good news for America.
Which once again proves that good news for America is bad news for Conservatives.
Politics before nation, the GOP way.