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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    the increase in federal spending has been minimal
    federal spending is up exactly 35% since obama made much of the stimulus a permanent part of the budget

    Government Spending Details: Federal State Local for 2013

    you don't know what you're talking about

    and your standards are...

    well, they're almost greek

    LOL!

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Hmm, you don't understand the difference between GDP and employment? What is it about conservatism that creates such confusion? If you want "shovel ready" projects and lowered unemployment, then demand them from your Congress critters. Lowered demand with corporate profits way up isn't going to drive private industry to invest in markets that are not expanding.
    Sorry but this post should have gone to Pb

    Do you think Obamacare is a pro growth private sector economic policy? Do you think asking companies to pay more in Federal Taxes is a pro growth capitalistic economic policy? do you think a 3.77 trillion dollar budget is a pro growth private sector economic policy?

    Do you know what the projections were for the Obama stimulus plan regarding unemployment?

    Obama is a closet socialist but you cannot see it as you don't seem to understand incentive as it relates to the private sector investment. Why don't you spend your own money investing in a business only to have it taken from you in the form of higher taxes?
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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Hmm, you don't understand the difference between GDP and employment? What is it about conservatism that creates such confusion? If you want "shovel ready" projects and lowered unemployment, then demand them from your Congress critters. Lowered demand with corporate profits way up isn't going to drive private industry to invest in markets that are not expanding.
    Obama got the stimulus program he wanted and his aides predicted what that would do for the unemployment picture. He had total control of the Congress for his first two years including part of the time it was filibuster proof yet he couldn't sell members of his own party on his own economic plan. Instead of blaming Congress how about asking Harry Reid why he hasn't brought to the floor well over a dozen bills passed by the House that are sitting in his desk? Looks to me like the Senate and the President are the problem not the House

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You didn't answer my question. If we were a socialist country I probably would blame the president, but since we are a capitalist country I don't. BTW, only a small portion of the stimulus was devoted to shovel ready jobs and about 1/3 was devoted to tax relief.
    Do you think Obamacare is a pro growth private sector economic policy? Do you think asking companies to pay more in Federal Taxes is a pro growth capitalistic economic policy? do you think a 3.77 trillion dollar budget is a pro growth private sector economic policy?

    Do you know what the projections were for the Obama stimulus plan regarding unemployment?

    Obama is a closet socialist but you cannot see it as you don't seem to understand incentive as it relates to the private sector investment. Why don't you spend your own money investing in a business only to have it taken from you in the form of higher taxes?

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You didn't answer my question. If we were a socialist country I probably would blame the president, but since we are a capitalist country I don't. BTW, only a small portion of the stimulus was devoted to shovel ready jobs and about 1/3 was devoted to tax relief.
    He very seldom answers a question. When hes flustered he usually runs off and leaves a trail of random numbers.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    He very seldom answers a question. When he’s flustered he usually runs off and leaves a trail of random numbers.
    You are right, I make the mistake that liberals are smarter than they actually are and that they have learned how to read a chart which gives them the answers to their questions. I will try not to make the mistake in the future of over estimating the intelligence of a liberal.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, I make the mistake that liberals are smarter than they actually are and that they have learned how to read a chart which gives them the answers to their questions. I will try not to make the mistake in the future of over estimating the intelligence of a liberal.
    I think we can agree that there are smart people on both the left and right. Hyper partisans who put rational thinking aside to defend "their side's" position often forfeit their intelligence.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sorry but this post should have gone to Pb

    Do you think Obamacare is a pro growth private sector economic policy?
    purchasing private insurance? What do you think? Off topic.

    Do you think asking companies to pay more in Federal Taxes is a pro growth capitalistic economic policy?
    I thought you wanted less debt?

    do you think a 3.77 trillion dollar budget is a pro growth private sector economic policy?
    Is that money being spent in the private sector?

    Do you know what the projections were for the Obama stimulus plan regarding unemployment?
    Is this the guy that forgets the time frame? employment was in free-fall, nobody made accurate projections on job loss from the Bush Recession.

    Obama is a closet socialist but you cannot see it as you don't seem to understand incentive as it relates to the private sector investment. Why don't you spend your own money investing in a business only to have it taken from you in the form of higher taxes?
    We have gone over this time and again, taxes are on profits, demand is holding back investment. Profits are way up without investment, there is little incentive to invest in such an environment.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama got the stimulus program he wanted and his aides predicted what that would do for the unemployment picture. He had total control of the Congress for his first two years including part of the time it was filibuster proof yet he couldn't sell members of his own party on his own economic plan. Instead of blaming Congress how about asking Harry Reid why he hasn't brought to the floor well over a dozen bills passed by the House that are sitting in his desk? Looks to me like the Senate and the President are the problem not the House
    Wow, 2 swings at the same topic, neither of which gets to the heart of the matter. You change the topic to Congress, but we all know how the minority blocked nearly everything, it has been and still is a matter of obstructing anything by this administration. I keep asking you where are the GOP job programs, we have nothing, but then that is entirely because anything improving the situation make the President look good.

    Luddites and knownothings, today's GOP.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And those are good numbers for an Obama supporter?
    How would I know? I haven't asked them.
    Would you say that discouraged workers are people who want a job?
    Yes, but they're not trying to get one. When Obama took office, the number of discouraged was 734,000, went up to 1,318,000 in Dec 2010 and is now back down to 835,000. An improvement from the worst, not as good as it had been.

    Unemployed people are people wanting a job? How can you claim that the current labor force up 1 million since Obama took office indicates that only 700,000 want a job?
    I claimed no such thing. I wrote: "the number of people not in the labor force who want a job went up 0.7 million" That's not saying only 700,000 people want a job.

    But in any case, you're just deflecting. Your claim of -9.4 million in the labor force was false. I'm not talking about good or bad, I'm just talking accuracy.
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    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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