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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    This entire exchange centered around you
    LOL!

    self respect, anyone?

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What amazes me is your lack of understanding of population growth, discouraged workers, under employed, and debt service as it impacts even you. BLS Data gives the number, you have a problem with it, take it up with them.

    Do you think a 155.2 million labor force in a country of 310 million people is an indication that the Obama economic policies have been successful? Please explain how growing the labor force by 1 million people in four plus years is an example of good economic policies?

    Do you think over 800,000 discouraged workers in April 2013 is an indication that the economy is improving under Obama? Did you bother to even look at the discouraged worker chart of 2009?

    Do you think under employment of 10 million Americans(your number) is an indication of an improving Obama economy?

    Explain why that during the Bush term the labor force grew at 1.3 million per year but under Obama that has been 300,000 per year yet Obama economic performance good, Bush bad?

    What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Exactly right, people like you don't want actual facts and analysis of those facts when they prove you wrong. You see, liberals want badly to believe in their ideology so let me suggest that if you want so badly to have a European economy here there are flights there every day. We could even take up a collection here to get you there.

    There continues to be claims that Obama has created over 3 million jobs during his term. Please show me those jobs on the employment report?

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    After Obama: 13.9% and falling
    no, 13.9 and rising, fact

    ask jean shaheen in NH

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us...lout.html?_r=0

    what does the democratic senator know that you don't

    wsj: "the us needs to average around 250,000 jobs a month for an extended period to tug the jobless rate back down to precession levels of under 6%, the pace of hiring in april is far too slow to accomplish that task"

    nyt yesterday: "the us economy is not getting any closer to recreating the jobs lost during the recession"

    far too slow, not getting any closer...

    why do the pros cover this jobs report as BAD NEWS

    maybe it's because they've been around so long

    and this "obama recovery" is, in fact, the slowest and weakest and worst economic recovery any american alive has ever suffered thru since "the roosevelt recession of 1937" (yet another economic phenomenon of which you are ignorant)

    yes, the slowest and weakest and worst economic recovery, according to usatoday AND the associated press, "by far"

    congrats

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly right, people like you don't want actual facts and analysis of those facts when they prove you wrong. You see, liberals want badly to believe in their ideology so let me suggest that if you want so badly to have a European economy here there are flights there every day. We could even take up a collection here to get you there.


    There continues to be claims that Obama has created over 3 million jobs during his term. Please show me those jobs on the employment report?
    There has been over 6 million positions added since the end of 2009. In strictly net terms the gains are nearly two million.
    Last edited by a351; 05-05-13 at 12:55 PM.

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So...

    1) the U-6 rate dropped 0.3% in 52 months to 13.9%...and you think that warrants a 'thank you' to POTUS Obama.
    No, the U-6 dropped 3.2% from the peak of the recession. That warrants a thank you, Mr. President.

    The argument I initially made was that our country is better now than we were before Obama. The .3% is simply the difference from before Obama until now. But as we both SHOULD know, the recession was in effect before Obama and hit its devastation peak in late 2009. The longer Obama has been in office, the further the number keeps dropping.

    2) Fine, then where is your unbiased factual source that details exactly how much of that added debt did not go towards helping Americans - either directly or indirectly - get back to work?
    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...nfographic.png

    Unless you're going to tell me Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and defense spending was all spending designed to improve the economy, then most of the added debt did not go toward improving the economy. Throw in other money spent on retirements, benefits, food stamps, education, etc. and most of the added debt was due to "business as usual" policies and decreased revenues due to the recession.

    3) So it is not a 'bad thing' that 40+% more Americans are so poor since Obama took office that they require government assistance so that they do not starve.
    It's not a bad thing our country is willing to pay to make sure people don't starve. It's not a bad thing we've expanded the program to make sure more people don't starve. Would you rather our country tell people they have to starve just so we can keep our percentage down?

    We're better off now than we were before Obama took office. Almost all indicators of problems are going down, not up as they were before Obama took office (with the exception of GDP, which is now going up instead of down like it was before Obama).

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post




    There has been over 6 million positions added since the end of 2009. In strictly net terms the gains are nearly two million.
    At a cost of 6 trillion and 250 billion a year in debt service? That good thing for you?

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, the U-6 dropped 3.2% from the peak of the recession. That warrants a thank you, Mr. President.

    The argument I initially made was that our country is better now than we were before Obama. The .3% is simply the difference from before Obama until now. But as we both SHOULD know, the recession was in effect before Obama and hit its devastation peak in late 2009. The longer Obama has been in office, the further the number keeps dropping.

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...nfographic.png

    Unless you're going to tell me Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and defense spending was all spending designed to improve the economy, then most of the added debt did not go toward improving the economy. Throw in other money spent on retirements, benefits, food stamps, education, etc. and most of the added debt was due to "business as usual" policies and decreased revenues due to the recession.

    It's not a bad thing our country is willing to pay to make sure people don't starve. It's not a bad thing we've expanded the program to make sure more people don't starve. Would you rather our country tell people they have to starve just so we can keep our percentage down?

    We're better off now than we were before Obama took office. Almost all indicators of problems are going down, not up as they were before Obama took office (with the exception of GDP, which is now going up instead of down like it was before Obama).
    The new liberal normal, a 3.2% reduction to 13.9% is a good thing, high unemployment, stagnant labor force, high debt, high govt. dependence, yes welcome to a suburb of Europe

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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Four year time table Rainman. Four. You're using the completely wrong time span and still coming up six million jobs short. This is embarrassing. Have some self respect.
    Correct, Four million of those jobs were lost before Obama took office, he even points that out with bolding.


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    re: U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Correct, Four million of those jobs were lost before Obama took office, he even points that out with bolding.
    Guess my dream that Obama wasn't in office in 2010-2011-2012 was a reality. Get someone to help you read the chart. I find it quite interesting that increasing employment back to January 2009 levels ignoring the pre recession numbers and at a cost of over 6 trillion to the debt along with massive numbers dependent on the Federal Taxpayer for welfare is called a success to a liberal. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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