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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    MMC wrote
    We also know that Obama was not talking about Libya or Benghazi until after his Debate with Romney and after the attack.

    MMC posted an untrue statement
    Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya | The White House

    Sept 13, 2012
    Remarks by the President in Golden, CO | The White House
    Let me say at the outset that obviously our hearts are heavy this week -- we had a tough day a couple of days ago, for four Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Libya. Yesterday I had a chance to go over to the State Department to talk to friends and colleagues of those who were killed. And these were Americans who, like so many others, both in uniform and civilians, who serve in difficult and dangerous places all around the world to advance the interests and the values that we hold dear as Americans.

    And a lot of times their work goes unheralded, doesn’t get a lot of attention, but it is vitally important. We enjoy our security and our liberty because of the sacrifices that they make. And they do an outstanding job every single day without a lot of fanfare. (Applause.)

    So what I want all of you to know is that we are going to bring those who killed our fellow Americans to justice. (Applause.) I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America. (Applause.)
    Sept 14, 2012
    Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event -- Las Vegas, NV | The White House
    As for the ones we lost: I want to assure you, we will bring their killers to justice. (Applause.) And we want to send a message all around the world -- anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America. (Applause.)

    We will not be deterred. We will keep going. We will keep going because the world needs us. We are the one indispensable power in the world. And if we are going to see peace and security for our children and our grandchildren, then that means that this generation of Americans has to lead. We’re going to have to keep doing the work -- no matter how hard it seems sometimes.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    These things happen
    absolutely

    what difference does it make, it was a long time ago

    Slaughter is what continues to happen in schools in Connecticut, theatres in Colorado and universities in Virginia, but we do nothing about it
    Daily Kos: Assault weapons ban fails 40-60

    Our crew in Benghazi new (sic) the risks and accepted them
    Report: Ambassador Stevens Said He Was on an Al-Qaeda Hit List

    This is 95% political
    speak for yourself

    I know people think there is some type of substance; but there isn't
    tina brown (who just fired howie): U.S. Officials Knew Libya Attacks Were Work of Al Qaeda Affiliates - The Daily Beast

    cbs: Lt Col Woods says his 16 member team pulled a month before attack - CBS News

    the hill: GOP: US Consulate received repeated threats, had requested more security - The Hill's Global Affairs

    wapo: White House secret meetings examine al-Qaeda threat in North Africa - The Washington Post

    the hill: Report: FBI still not on scene in Benghazi - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

    wsj: Militant Link to Libya Attack - WSJ.com

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/wo...anted=all&_r=0

    beast: U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Bombed Twice in Run-Up to 9/11 Anniversary - The Daily Beast

    wapo: Sensitive documents left behind at U.S. diplomatic post in Libya - The Washington Post

    ex: Dems join chorus questioning Obama on attack | WashingtonExaminer

    wapo: Panetta says undetermined terrorist group carried out attack on US Consulate in Libya - The Washington Post

    abc: Some Administration Officials Were Concerned About Initial White House Push Blaming Benghazi Attack on Mob, Video - ABC News

    wsj: Gross Security Failure - WSJ.com

    abc: Security Concerns Keep FBI From Scene of Ambassador's Murder, Official Says - ABC News

    wapo: From video to terrorist attack: a definitive timeline of administration statements on the Libya attack - The Washington Post

    youtube: Tammy Duckworth: Marines Should Have Been in Benghazi - YouTube

    beast: Obama's Shaky Libya Narrative - The Daily Beast

    cns: Lieberman Calls for Independent Investigation into Libyan Attack | CNS News

    cnn: Exclusive: Amb. Chris Stevens worried about al Qaeda hit list – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

    huffpo: CNN's Use Of Christopher Stevens' Journal Is 'Disgusting': State Dept.

    cbs: Why Did The White House Take So Long To Admit Libya Attack Was Terrorism? « CBS

    weekly standard: Permanent Spin | The Weekly Standard

    wsj: Miscues Before Libya Assault - WSJ

    independent: US 'was warned of Libya embassy attack but did nothing' - Independent.ie

    fox: Diplomatic, western posts targeted repeatedly in Benghazi in run-up to deadly assault | Fox News

    buzzfeed: US Embassy In Cairo Deletes Controversial Tweets

    sentinel: http://atlanticsentinel.com/2012/09/...-premeditated/

    independent: Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent

    atlantic wire: Report: Ambassador Stevens Said He Was on an Al-Qaeda Hit List

    cns: Where Was Obama on Night of Benghazi Attack?

    cbs, 60 minutes: Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Are Just "Bumps In The Road" - YouTube

    *****

    an awful lot of questions, very few answers, why does the white house hide?

    where are the survivors, why do foggy bottom officials claim they've been threatened?

    why did barack obama go to bed?

    stay tuned

    If you want real scandal, go after the administration for wonton murder of our own citizens and innocent bystanders in foreign countries with these drone strikes
    why don't YOU go after the administration for wanton murder of our own citizens and innocent bystanders in foreign countries...

    heck, this admin is not even confined to foreign countries

    Eric Holder: Drone Strike To Kill U.S. Citizen On American Soil Legal

    as you know

    you do realize---as cnn reported above---that it was in truth, in actuality, a DRONE (abu yahya al libi, pakistan, june, 2012) that motivated the attack on the consulate and NOT A VIDEO

    seeya at the hearings, homeboy
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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I see.
    Then if I had shown W. Bush sweeping Iraq under the carpet and said he was doing Weihnachten Cleanup that would have been racial-specific also.
    Was Bush German? Would the point of that been to point out his German-ness?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Was Bush German? Would the point of that been to point out his German-ness?
    No. To point out that that he was in trouble over Iraq. Like Obama is over Benghazi. Simple. See? You're the one who selectively sees race.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    No. To point out that that he was in trouble over Iraq. Like Obama is over Benghazi. Simple. See? You're the one who selectively sees race.
    Why the reference to Kwanzaa then?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    democrat congressman stephen lynch of south, blue collar boston

    Democratic congressman Stephen Lynch said this morning on TV that Susan Rice used "scrubbed" talking points on Benghazi to deliver "false information" to the American people:

    "Absolutely, they were false, they were wrong," said Lynch, after being asked about Steve Hayes's report on "The Benghazi Talking Points."

    "There were no protests outside the Benghazi compound there. This was a deliberate and strategic attack on the consulate there," said the Democratic congressman.

    "It was false information. There's no excuse for that."
    Dem Rep. on Benghazi Talking Points: 'It Was Scrubbed ... It Was False Information. There's No Excuse For That.' | The Weekly Standard

    and yes, congressman lynch is indeed a member in good standing on evil darrel issa's offensive oversight cmte and will speak

    Committee On Oversight & Government Reform

    it turns out evil issa has the emails---on saturday, 9-14, the day before un ambassador susan rice famously toured the 5 sunday talks to blame the video, the cia put together talking points with information intended for the american public

    that advisory contained language ultimately scrubbed by state dept spokesperson victoria nuland, the chris carney, essentially, of foggy bottom

    evil issa's emails show that ms nuland had "serious concerns about the draft," she was "worried that some members of congress would use the talking points to criticize the state dept for not paying attention to agency warnings"

    her "superiors," she did not say which ones, "were unhappy"

    the language which was removed (congressman lynch says "scrubbed") was "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda," and "ansar al sharia" and "jihad"

    the state dept also changed the word "attack" to "demonstration"

    and the list of previous attacks and warnings contained in the original advisory was erased

    The Benghazi Talking Points | The Weekly Standard

    do you know how evil issa got the icky emails

    read the link (bottom of page one)

    even at that, the revisionists at foggy bottom weren't done

    the final talking points approved by all the correspondents issa itemizes---seniors at state, nsc, odni (offfice director natl intel), cia and the white house---do NOT mention the video ms rice trumpeted all over town the next morning

    these people are not only dangerously dishonest and reckless, they're embarrassingly incompetent and amateur

    congressman lynch: the info put out by the white house "certainly wasn't accurate"

    "i don't know what the process was"

    issa does, he read the emails

    stay tuned

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Somerville.

    Exactly! It appears there are plenty of explanations to be made here, from both sides of the aisle. Let's just hear the truth! If Ambassadors and Seals aren't safe, where does that leave the rest of us?
    Howdy Pol, although I believe there was a cover up to hide the lax security, having lax security at an Embassy or consulate is nothing new and has been going on through almost every administration I can remember. It boils down to State and DOD do not get along very good. Sate does not want a much of military hanging around an Embassy or consulate as they feel it that security does not allow them to do the business they are in, diplomacy, passports and visa. State is always afraid having more than the token Marine Security Guards will drive the people away from the Embassies and Consulates that they are trying to help.

    Many, many times though various administrations State has turn away additional security as that has something to do with their mentality. State would rather take chances, sometimes outrages chances with their lives than accept additional security. State thinks that talk and diplomacy will win friends and convince people that the U.S. is the good guys. The military’s job is to kill people and break things. Two different philosophies which most of the time can not be overcome when it comes to the security of our Embassies and Consulates. Even if Ambassador Stevens asked for additional security, especially in the form of American military, State would have frown on this. If they were to provide additional security, state then would have asked the host country for it, choosing close to 100% of the time not to bring in the American Military.

    This my dear friend is a fact.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    No. To point out that that he was in trouble over Iraq. Like Obama is over Benghazi. Simple. See? You're the one who selectively sees race.

    See, here's something criticizing Romney on gay marriage. It has nothing to do with his religion....

    romney%u00252Bmarriage.jpg


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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why the reference to Kwanzaa then?
    Why not?

    "Kwanzaa Kleanup" offers some alliteration zip.

    That and The Obamas are not unfamiliar with the holiday.

    Michelle and I send our warmest wishes to all those celebrating Kwanzaa this holiday season.

    Today marks the beginning of the week-long celebration honoring African American heritage and culture through the seven principles of Kwanzaa -- unity, self determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith.

    We celebrate Kwanzaa at a time when many African Americans and all Americans reflect on our many blessings and memories over the past year and our aspirations for the year to come.

    And even as there is much to be thankful for, we know that there are still too many Americans going through enormous challenges and trying to make ends meet. But we also know that in the spirit of unity, or Umoja, we can overcome those challenges together.

    As families across America and around the world light the red, black, and green candles of the Kinara this week, our family sends our well wishes and blessings for a happy and healthy new year. ####


    So why do you object to Barack Obama identifying with his African American heritage?

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    MMC wrote


    MMC posted an untrue statement
    Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya | The White House

    Sept 13, 2012


    Sept 14, 2012
    Not at ALL. Looks like what I said was an ABSOLUTELY True Statement.....note your Dates. Let me show ya once again.....

    We also know that Obama was not talking about Libya or Benghazi until after his Debate with Romney and after the attack.....snip~

    Nice Try.....though. Thanks for validating what I stated. Although after reading your links you should have noticed the dates you posted. Does the 12th, 13th, and all that come after Sept 11th?

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