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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    well, it was, after all...

    Carney: 'Benghazi Happened a Long Time Ago' | The Weekly Standard

    we'll have to wait and see what the clients of ms toensing and her husband joe digeniva have to say under whistle blower protection in evil darrel issa's comfy committee

    why did the original cia advisory contain so much informative language, meant for the public, about al qaeda, ansar al sharia and jihad, all ultimately removed by victoria newland, press spokesperson at state?

    stay tuned

    and why was the nyt so casually, so amicably able, to interview mr khattala, ansar al sharia militia man and "suspected mastermind," right out in the open in that crowded luxury hotel in banghazi in october?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/wo...anted=all&_r=0

    the gray lady can get there but the g-men can't?

    is mr khattala one of those grainy guys on the fbi's barney fife-like posters?

    questions, questions, questions...

    enjoy the hearings, homeys
    Yeah, this has been staring in their face all along and Hillary knows Ansar Al Sharia provides security for that Part of Libya.

    Witnesses and the authorities have called Ahmed Abu Khattala one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 attack on the American diplomatic mission here. But just days after President Obama reasserted his vow to bring those responsible to justice, Mr. Abu Khattala spent two leisurely hours on Thursday evening at a crowded luxury hotel, sipping a strawberry frappe on a patio and scoffing at the threats coming from the American and Libyan governments.

    few, like the militia group Ansar al-Shariah that is linked to Mr. Abu Khattala and that officials in Washington and Tripoli agree was behind the attack, have embraced an extremist ideology hostile to the West and nursed ambitions to extend it over Libya. But also troubling to the United States is the evident tolerance shown by other militias allied with the government, which have so far declined to take any action against suspects in the Benghazi attack.

    Although Mr. Abu Khattala said he was not a member of Al Qaeda, he declared he would be proud to be associated with Al Qaeda’s puritanical zeal for Islamic law. And he said that the United States had its own foreign policy to blame for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. “Why is the United States always trying to impose its ideology on everyone else?” he asked. “Why is it always trying to use force to implement its agendas?”

    Although Mr. Abu Khattala’s exact role remains unclear, witnesses have said they saw him directing other fighters that night. Libyan officials have singled him out, and officials in Washington say they are examining his role.

    Witnesses, Benghazi residents and Western news reports, including those in The New York Times, have described Mr. Abu Khattala as a leader of Ansar al-Shariah, whose trucks and fighters were seen attacking the mission. Mr. Abu Khattala praised the group’s members as “good people with good goals, which are trying to implement Islamic law,” and he insisted their network of popular support was vastly underestimated by other brigade leaders who said the group had fewer than 200 fighters.

    “It is bigger than a brigade,” he said. “It is a movement.”

    Mr. Abu Khattala said he was close to the group but was not an official part of it. Instead, he said, he was still the commander of an Islamist brigade, Abu Obaida ibn al-Jarrah. Some of its members joined Ansar al-Shariah, but Mr. Abu Khattala said that even though his brigade had disbanded he could still call it together. “If the individuals are there, the brigade is there,” he said.....snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/wo...nted=all&_r=1&

    Yeah Prof.....I have been sitting on this for quite some time. Had it from some other New Sources. Course I knew the Left would cry about the Source. Until I found the NY Times link. Which you now have here. So much for no AQ presence? So much for not knowing where one of the Attackers was all along.....huh?

    See Obama and his Team thought they could Muddy the waters so to speak. Hide behind terminology. Move goal-posts and deflect with anything they can. They have been hoping all along the news cycle would push this All under the rug.

    That they could just get out of it with charges of Negligence and Incompetency. Managerial Failures.

    I think it is funny that Team Obama and the Democrats aren't smiling anymore when the name Benghazi pops up.....Note: Obama did lose that **** eating grin 2 days ago. Do you think they can see the writing on the Wall, yet?

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Their biggest mistake here, outside the the obvious nonchalant attitude concerning Americans whom were under attack by AQ at the most inconvenient of times, an election, the ensuing cover up of their inaction brings up many questions of documents, whom was told what, and testimony to congress.

    Both Hillary, and Obama in one way or another could be criminally liable in this matter, and this not only would lead to impeachment of Obama, but destroy any dream of Hillary running in '16. Libs can't let this happen so they are pulling out all the stops from their usual playbook.

    Mock people asking questions
    Isolate, ridicule, destroy credibility
    dismiss.

    It might work. With the weak assed leadership in our side, calls for the necessary select committees, and such may be denied by our own crier of the house....

    I hope it isn't so, but can't rule it out.
    Totally agree with you, Nixon did not, fortunately, have the media on his side protecting him.

    Obama and Hillary do, but we have the internet, we have Fox [ tho I am not an overly huge fan ] and conservative talk radio out here... the facts cannot be covered up as we demand, and should keep demanding of our elected representatives, that we get to the bottom of this sordid debacle in Benghazi and the continued coverup, apparently with threats against whistle-blowers, after. It will get real dirty though, as it is two of the left's three most cherished icons being justly trampled here, and they sure do not like their sacred oxen being gored.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, ...
    This sordid affair is ensnaring a bunch of officials & spokespeople at State as well as in Intelligence ... not to mention Hillary and her boss ... as it should.

    You know it's getting warm when they trot out stuff like "So far I don't see it" or "There's nothing new here" or the now infamous "Happened a long time ago" & "What difference does it make"

    And your comment about waiting for a source from something like the NYT is very familiar ... I do the same thing.

    Finally ... your comment that "They have been hoping all along the news cycle would push this All under the rug." recalls a couple of posts from December 2012 & January 2013

    obama sweeping benghazi under rug.jpg hillary sweeping benghazi under rug.jpg

    To be honest, it looked like they were going to get away with it.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    when were the subpoensa issued
    when will the house hearings be held
    Inspector General Planned To Investigate Accountability Review Board's Work In October 2012, Before The Board's Independent Review Concluded. A November 1 blog post by Josh Rogin, a national security reporter for Foreign Policy's The Cable, reported on a letter from the State Department's Inspector General's office -- dated October 26, 2012 -- that announced plans to investigate the Benghazi Accountability Review Board report. The letter also stated that the Inspector General's office regularly reviews State Department security procedures, and specifically mentioned an Accountability Review Board report from a December 2004 terrorist attack on a different diplomatic facility. From the letter:

    The scope of our work for our office of Inspection (ISP) in the year ahead includes plans to inspect the Bureau of Intelligence and Research this winter and will be attentive to how credible threat information is coordinated within the Department and expeditiously shared with overseas diplomatic missions. Inspectors will monitor the implementation of any recommendations from the Benghazi Accountability Review Board (ARB) report and will review them as future inspections are conducted. [State Department Office of the Inspector General, 10/26/12, via Foreign Policy's The Cable]
    Right-Wing Media Dishonestly Link Routine Investigation To Benghazi "Whistleblowers" | Research | Media Matters for America



    ooops
    look at the date
    were their any whistleblowers then?


    your side better not wait for the IG report because that will lead nowhere
    if the republican congressmen actually believe the whistleblowers have information which will conflict with the official report, then they need to subpoena those civil servants, give them immunity for their testimony, and conduct a public hearing

    but none of that will happen
    because the republican congressmen know they have nothing to expose
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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

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    This sordid affair is ensnaring a bunch of officials & spokespeople at State as well as in Intelligence ... not to mention Hillary and her boss ... as it should.

    You know it's getting warm when they trot out stuff like "So far I don't see it" or "There's nothing new here" or the now infamous "Happened a long time ago" & "What difference does it make"

    And your comment about waiting for a source from something like the NYT is very familiar ... I do the same thing.

    Finally ... your comment that "They have been hoping all along the news cycle would push this All under the rug." recalls a couple of posts from December 2012 & January 2013

    obama sweeping benghazi under rug.jpg hillary sweeping benghazi under rug.jpg

    To be honest, it looked like they were going to get away with it.
    Heya Bubba. Looks like the Team Obama has to many LOOPHOLES left laying around. I think they always knew they couldn't account for anything that came from overseas. That they could deflect away. But see the FBI has known all along about this guy here. Yet they could not interview him. As it was to dangerous to travel to that part of Libya.....remember.

    Also there is more my brutha.....they also know who was in Egypt and was released from Prison before Mubarak was taken down. Just as they know the Name of that Sunni Cleric in Egypt.....who said he saw the Anti Mulim Video. Then called on his fellow Egyptians to riot our Embassy in Egypt. Then going onto social media and calling for All Muslims to rise up and Protest the US. The response was 23 Muslim Countries rose up against us.....all On Obama's Watch and the Anniversary of 911.

    So we can see it was all about trying to wipe the egg of their faces for getting caught with their pants down. Now they just don't want to face any consequences for their Screw-ups.

    See if a soldier was on Guard duty at his post.....then decided to go and take a break, cuz of a valid reason say like taking a piss. If something then happens while he has left his post. He would be hooked up for Dereliction of Duty. Failing to maintain his post. For Failing to follow orders and Misconduct.

    Moreover we have recently had TOP Flag Officers removed from Duty for Inappropriate Judgment Command.....this is a term that should be thrown around so that Obama and his Team hears it constantly. Already the Democrats are lining up with their defense of.....Lets not Politicize this. As they now know they cannot cover Hillary nor Obama, nor Panetta and General Ham's Azz!

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Here are the names of whistleblowers: BENGHAZI: Names of

    And I hope that some of the survivors will also come forward.

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    On the night of the Benghazi terror attack, special operations put out multiple calls for all available military and other assets to be moved into position to help -- but the State Department and White House never gave the military permission to cross into Libya, sources told Fox News.

    The disconnect was one example of what sources described as a communication breakdown that left those on the ground without outside help.

    Multiple sources spoke to Fox News about what they described as a lack of action in Benghazi on Sept. 11 last year, when four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, were killed.

    "They had no plan. They had no contingency plan for if this happens, and that's the problem this is going to face in the future," one source said. "They're dealing with more hostile regions, hostile countries. This attack's going to happen again."

    Sources said that shortly after the attack began around 9:40 p.m., special forces put out the calls for assets to be moved into position.

    "What that does is that enacts ... every asset, every element to respond and it becomes a global priority," one source said. "I would tell you that was given and the only reason it was given is because of special operations pack."

    However, the source said, "Assets did not move."

    The failure of the State Department or White House to give the military permission to go into Libya, according to the source, only accentuates the significant breakdown in communication among the State Department, military, CIA and White House.

    The State Department Accountability Review Board, which investigated the attack and what led up to it, also claimed that "Washington-Tripoli-Benghazi communication, cooperation, and coordination on the night of the attacks were effective."

    But one source told Fox News there was "not good communication" between State and Defense "on any level."
    Special ops called for military backup during Libya attack, sources say | Fox News

    panetta testified before armed services in february: we didn't go because "the attack ended before we could get off the ground"

    fox's sources, perhaps toensing's and digeneva's clients, worry about global priorities and the potential for more attacks in the future

    cnn simultaneously reports aq on the rise---in north africa, in west africa, in syria, in the peninsula...

    in boston?

    why didn't arb interview hillary clinton?

    why was the nyt so easily able to interview mr khattala right out in the open in october?

    why is the administration keeping the benghazi survivors hidden and their injuries secret?

    why did the press spokesperson at foggy bottom (the state dept) scrub the words "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda," "ansar al sharia" and "jihadists" out of the talking points the cia prepared for the american public?

    where was secretary of state hillary clinton on 9-11-12 and what exactly was she doing all day and nite?

    and why did president barack hussein obama go to bed?

    glen doherty and tyrone woods were killed seven hours and 33 minutes after the conclusion of the president's meeting with panetta and dempsey

    stay tuned

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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    [QUOTE=bubbabgone;1061767781]I know what the creator of this meme is trying to say. Unfortunately, he's very misinformed.

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    Good to see you are finally admitting that Obama's an American. Though I'm sure you didn't think you were.


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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Here are the names of whistleblowers: BENGHAZI: Names of

    And I hope that some of the survivors will also come forward.
    this makes no sense:
    you have listed the purported whistleblowers
    The lawyers said their clients believe their accounts of Benghazi were spurned by the Accountability Review board (ARB), ...
    but the article goes on to state
    “There were people who were material witnesses, who wanted to talk to [the ARB], and they were not allowed to talk to them.
    so, who are we going to hear from, those named 'whistleblowers' who believe their accounts to the review board were not adequately considered or those who were not allowed to present to the review board
    please clear this up, as you have presented a list but there are supposedly more folks who want to testify but did not get the chance. why are the republicans not giving them the chance to testify
    in the absence of a rational response i can only conclude that those who did not have the opportunity to testify have nothing to offer, as evidenced by the republicans' failure to include them in the forthcoming hearings
    and that those who did testify and now hold themselves out as whistleblowers are disgruntled employees who resent their testimonies being found under-represented in the final review report
    hopefully, the republicans will conduct hearings which will show us
    1. the testimony of the 'whistleblowers' which was found to be inadequately shared in the review; and
    2. how those 'whistleblowers' careers have been adversely affected by their willingness to come forward with their testimony, causing them to legitimately be found 'whistleblowers'
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    Re: Benghazi: State Department's ARB Panel Is Under Formal Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this makes no sense:
    you have listed the purported whistleblowers

    but the article goes on to state
    so, who are we going to hear from, those named 'whistleblowers' who believe their accounts to the review board were not adequately considered or those who were not allowed to present to the review board
    please clear this up, as you have presented a list but there are supposedly more folks who want to testify but did not get the chance. why are the republicans not giving them the chance to testify
    in the absence of a rational response i can only conclude that those who did not have the opportunity to testify have nothing to offer, as evidenced by the republicans' failure to include them in the forthcoming hearings
    and that those who did testify and now hold themselves out as whistleblowers are disgruntled employees who resent their testimonies being found under-represented in the final review report
    hopefully, the republicans will conduct hearings which will show us
    1. the testimony of the 'whistleblowers' which was found to be inadequately shared in the review; and
    2. how those 'whistleblowers' careers have been adversely affected by their willingness to come forward with their testimony, causing them to legitimately be found 'whistleblowers'
    I am not willing to conclude anything. There aren't enough facts yet. I posted the link because I also didn't know any whistleblower names but now do. Why is this a problem for you? Did you already know who these people are? Do you know the names of survivors and what they have to say?

    Surely, you're as interested in learning all the facts as I am. After going far beyond the requirements of his job description, Ty Woods died alone on a rooftop waiting for help that never came. I still want to know why and am willing to wait patiently as facts continue to emerge.

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