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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    Niow let us let the system crash and either get universal healthcare or the bloody deaths of people in rich neighborhoods. Either way really works for me.
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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    yesterday, from the professional leftists and journolisters at roger simon's politico

    Video: TOP 5 complaints about Obamacare - POLITICO.com

    young mr trowbridge's list of complaints overlooks quite a few---the move towards part time employment, for one (particular peeve of jean shaheen in NH)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us...out.html?_r=1&

    young mr trowbridge, who is a gentleman, also fails to recall obama's broken promise to get his shop exchanges up and running for small biz---this is the bugaboo of baucus, the last straw for rockefeller (both of whom are retiring)

    mr harkin (also not running for reelection) of iowa frets that money has been taken out of prevention primarily for purpose of propaganda

    harry reid's ridiculous rant yesterday went right there, as you recall

    uber lib ben cardin's consternation concerns carefirst (which covers 70% of terrapins) announcing a 25% premium hike---maryland is particularly bellwether cuz it's one of the very few states in full compliance

    there's the failure to get ipab up and running which means insurers have no one to report to on medicaid costs

    there's the refusal of more than half our states to play along, both in the establishment of the exchanges (which are mandated to be up and running by october 1) and in the expansion of medicaid (after justice roberts left them off the hook)

    but you knew all that

    maybe if the president weren't black, senators baucus and rockefeller and the writers at the ny times wouldn't say all these things

    but that's mere supposition

    ie, it might be irresponsible to go there

    party on, peaceniks

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    I'm not surprised by any of this. Most of what the government does is political, senseless and incompetent. It is amazing that they pass an unread law believing it will reduce health care costs and ensure that more people have insurance coverage and the actual result is the opposite. Vote these people out. All of them. It is the only hope we have.

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Despite republicans pretending this PT stuff is new it really isn't new at all. Places like retail are places that always kept their workers part time. It has always been hard to get a full time position because the companies had more programs offered to management under full time positions. I love how the idiots have pretended this is something new obama started when it has pretty much been SOP in low end jobs forever. It has been there since I have been old enough to work and i started in the 80s and i am pretty sure obama was not president way back then.

    You people are so gullible. At least now businesses have a popular excuse for not hiring full time employees in their large turnover positions. Before it was inexcusably selfish and greedy not to do it, but now they have a bad excuse that the republicans latch onto despite the fact it is still just to screw over the people who actually do the labor jobs in many of these places. Yup, this shows republican values towards labor. It is great to screw over the hard working people of america as long as you can complain about the black president. It is called taking one for the team and i am sure all the people in these jobs who have forever suffered from part time employment because the company doesn't want to pay full time benefits are happy to face those problems now that it damages Obama's reputation.

    Still, i will agree Romneycare was screwed up in MA, and now is screwed up on a national level, and obama was a complete spiness republican worm for allowing universal health care to be changed into republicon BS called obamacare. Niow let us let the system crash and either get universal healthcare or the bloody deaths of people in rich neighborhoods. Either way really works for me.
    Many acknowledge it didn't START with the ACA, but it definitely has escalated it.

    I work for a mid-sized company. Other than Manager and Assist Manager levels, staff is being cut back to less than 30 hours per week. Specifically because of ACA. The expense of administration and the actual cost of the insurance is far beyond what the company can carry, and raising prices to offset that expense is not viable in our competitive market.

    And before you jump on that 'cut the company's profits' (which are already tight), several of the Managers are invested in those profits, so effectively that would cut their pay too.

    That second to last sentence? Calling for the blood of a group of people based on money, no matter who they are, is pathetic. Really pathetic.
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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Despite republicans pretending this PT stuff is new it really isn't new at all. Places like retail are places that always kept their workers part time. It has always been hard to get a full time position because the companies had more programs offered to management under full time positions. I love how the idiots have pretended this is something new obama started when it has pretty much been SOP in low end jobs forever. It has been there since I have been old enough to work and i started in the 80s and i am pretty sure obama was not president way back then.

    You people are so gullible. At least now businesses have a popular excuse for not hiring full time employees in their large turnover positions. Before it was inexcusably selfish and greedy not to do it, but now they have a bad excuse that the republicans latch onto despite the fact it is still just to screw over the people who actually do the labor jobs in many of these places. Yup, this shows republican values towards labor. It is great to screw over the hard working people of america as long as you can complain about the black president. It is called taking one for the team and i am sure all the people in these jobs who have forever suffered from part time employment because the company doesn't want to pay full time benefits are happy to face those problems now that it damages Obama's reputation.

    Still, i will agree Romneycare was screwed up in MA, and now is screwed up on a national level, and obama was a complete spiness republican worm for allowing universal health care to be changed into republicon BS called obamacare. Niow let us let the system crash and either get universal healthcare or the bloody deaths of people in rich neighborhoods. Either way really works for me.
    I would like to thank you for so openly demonstrating the moral vacuum of your cause.

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    Mind you, you don't have the balls. So really everyone is laughing at you, pretending to be a tough guy on the internet. But still, it's nice to have that example out in the open.

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    The law requires large employers offering health insurance to include part-time employees working 30 hours a week or more. But rather than provide healthcare to more workers, a growing number of employers are cutting back employee hours instead.

    The result: Not only will these workers earn less money, but they'll also miss out on health insurance at work.
    All I can say is, "well duh." Goes along with other common sense complaints about Obumblecare, the chief one being that it's going to significantly raise the cost of healthcare. This is the kind of crap you deal with when the bill's supporters "have to pass it to see what's in it."

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    From the LA Times, no less. That's almost as much of a shock as the content must be to those who couldn't see this coming.

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    All the things people who were against obama care said are coming true.

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Granted, even the President has said that technology is changing how American companies do business and, as such, some jobs that were once done by men are now being done by machines. This trend started in the late 70's/early 80's and has continued to increase ever since. Nothing too surprising here except Corporate America has finally begun to fully embrace the technological shift at a time when our economy can least stand all the "right-sizing" going on everywhere. But is this "right-sizing" occurring because it's the right thing to do OR is it being done because employers don't want to conform to changes in the laws? You're a small business owner and clearly you're making adjustments to your hiring practices. But are you doing it because you're finally embracing technology or are you doing it because of changes in varies laws that affect your business operations? Something tells me it's the former rather than the latter.

    Nonetheless, as a business owner it's your decision what to do as far as hiring and firing is concerned. I'd think your employees would appreciate your honestly as you show them the door.

    "You're fired" because you're a lousy employee.

    "You're fired" because you didn't meet performance requirements.

    "You're fired" because we've had to cut back do to decreased revenue.

    I'd hate to think you'd fire someone "because ObamaCare made me".
    I am not required to explain why I fire someone unless I object to their receiving unemployment to avoid having my unemployment rates go up. That said, I am honest with them and anyone who calls me for a reference.

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    Re: Part-Timers To Lose Pay Amid Health Act's New Math

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This is true. I just talked to a guy today whose hours are being cut by his employer due to Obamacare provisions.
    That guy is among many. We just dropped our full-time staff by 8 percent (another 4 percent coming), and we've put a 28-hour cap on all part-timers, some of which consistently used to work 35 hours a week. We also cut 4 middle-management positions.

    This was necessary to maintain our margins at an acceptable rate to stay in good standing with our lendors.

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