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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It seems 14,000 dead people doesn't reveal a catastrophic failure of a system.

    Socialist schemes implode... always.
    OK. France's system covers things of dubious therapeutic value and makes unrealistic assumptions. Do you think PPACA suffers from the same shortcomings?
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    this afternoon, the hill, brian lamb's favorite source on cspan's old washington journal



    Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck' - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

    baucus, shaheen, cardin, harkin, rockefeller...

    now harry reid

    choo choo!
    In other words...

    'OOPS'.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    let's see...

    ya got the university of virginia on the one hand...

    and david brock on the other

    LOL!
    Indeed! Anyone who would place more credibility in the U of VA than in David Brock is silly.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Train wreck?

    I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

    Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.
    It hasn't been a free market for a long time, before the government got involved a doctor's house call was cheap. But by all means, make the common mistake of blaming the free market after the government ****s up a market in order to justify MORE government.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Let's not force the analogy too far. The Republicans created the problems we have with PPACA. They obstructed and obfuscated the process of developing health care for all and they distorted and diverted its supporters efforts to create it. Don't blame the Democrats for whatever problems it faces. Blame the Republicans.
    The Democrats wrote, voted for it and Obama signed it, but it's jacked up because of the Republicans? Do you know how you sound right now?...LOL!!!
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    OK. France's system covers things of dubious therapeutic value and makes unrealistic assumptions. Do you think PPACA suffers from the same shortcomings?
    And most important... the system is on life support... basically bankrupt.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Democrats wrote, voted for it and Obama signed it, but it's jacked up because of the Republicans? Do you know how you sound right now?...LOL!!!
    The Demokrats own ObamaKare. It's their sleazy backdoor (literally), read it to find out how much you'll like it... first step towards Single Payer.

    But... Demokrats will be Demokrats... they'll just lie, lie and lie some more.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    uh oh

    another day, another problem

    reuters:

    But with "Obamacare" five months from show time, Democrats are worried about whether enough Americans will sign up to make the sweeping healthcare overhaul a success - and what failure might mean for Congress heading into the 2016 presidential race.

    Some of the law's main advocates fear that not enough of America's 49 million uninsured will know about health coverage offered in their own states. Even if they do, new insurance plans may not be attractive to young, healthy consumers needed to offset an expected influx of older and sicker patients.

    Only a handful of states are beginning campaigns to promote the online health insurance marketplaces created by the law. Known as exchanges, the markets will offer private coverage at federally subsidized rates to individuals and families with low-to-moderate incomes, with enrollment set to begin October 1.
    Obamacare is on the horizon, but will enough people sign up? | Reuters

    add progressive public-option warrior ron wyden, oregon, to the long list of democratic senators (shaheen, cardin, harkin, baucus, rockefeller, reid, schumer) speaking out about their fears

    obama is a really bad implementor

    "there is reason to be very concerned about what's going to happen with young people, if their premiums shoot up i can tell you that is going to wash into the united states senate in a hurry," worries wyden

    cbs---americans want answers

    cri---falling apart in the implementation

    reuters---"democrats are frustrated about the lack of details surrounding administration plans to promote the exchanges"

    have YOU heard yet what the white house plans to do

    cbs hasn't, the retiring chair of senate finances hasn't

    the exchanges must be up and running october 1

    how do YOU spell incompetence?

    "why in late april can't they show us any of what they've got planned, the rollout plan should already be in existence"

    no?

    reuters---"big insurers appear wary of participating"

    "most states have balked at medicaid expansion" (capitalizing on chief justice roberts' escape)

    the shop program for small business has been put off a year, meaning vulnerable entrepreneurs will be stuck in exchanges with no competition

    all betrayals of bedrock pledges promoted by the president of broken promises

    "meanwhile, the enrollment effort is under threat from months of delay, a congressional republican embargo on new funding and worries about how affordable the new plans will be, according to analysts, lawmakers, congressional aides and former officials"

    you hear that as spin?

    you better get off at the next stop

    choo choo!

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Let's not force the analogy too far. The Republicans created the problems we have with PPACA. They obstructed and obfuscated the process of developing health care for all and they distorted and diverted its supporters efforts to create it. Don't blame the Democrats for whatever problems it faces. Blame the Republicans.
    Arguably the dumbest thing I have read on these boards. I can picture you sitting at you keyboard typing that drivel and laughing your ass off saying to yourself "I can't believe I'm typing this, lol".
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    Some of the law's main advocates fear that not enough of America's 49 million uninsured will know about health coverage offered in their own states. Even if they do, new insurance plans may not be attractive to young, healthy consumers needed to offset an expected influx of older and sicker patients.

    Obamacare is on the horizon, but will enough people sign up? | Reuters
    Edited for brevity.

    I have read SEVERAL reviews that claim much of the success of PPACA hinges on getting these 'young healthy' folks to purchase insurance. But the penalty; In 2014, the penalty is $95 or 1 percent of the individualís income, whichever is greater doesn't seem much motivation. I can't comprehend believing a health insurance policy could exist with a monthly premium less that $8/mo. Are such things common? Yes the penalty does increase to $695 or 2.5 percent of income in 2016 but this is still ~$60/mo. which still seems like a bargain. I realize that paying the penalty leaves one exposed to medical care expenses but they are currently taking (and have been) chance now...what am I missing?

    train wreck indeed.
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