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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    The first clue that the bill was bad is when they saw that it was the size of the Montana phone book.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Train wreck?

    I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

    Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.
    Perhaps they don't teach this at the railroad, but what we have now is not a free-market system.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

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    Remind me again who owns the railroads...you know the ones who fixes 'all the broken equipment and all the torn-up track'. Nice analogy.
    Why? That's not the point.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The funny thing about railroads is that they're always in the red no matter if its privately run or publicly run.
    It just isn't so. Some railroads have had trouble in the past but most are doing quite well.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Perhaps they don't teach this at the railroad, but what we have now is not a free-market system.
    American health care is run by capitalists for the benefit of capitalists. While some parts of it are supported by the public, ours is a free-market system in all important respects.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

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    Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck' - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    I don't see how the PPACA can succeed. it leaves in place a model which tries to deliver an essential service with inelastic demand via three tiers of for-profit entities. the cherry on top is that initial access is still tied to specific employment. anyone with open eyes can see why we're paying more than any other nation, and for poorer outcomes.

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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Train wreck?

    I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

    Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Why? That's not the point.
    Ok, what is the point? I understood your point was that railroad companies did just fine repairing their 'train wrecks' but they are private 'Free-market, profit-driven' entities. You compared their repair abilities to public efforts (PPACA). Is your point that the public sector is just as effective at 'repair' as the private sector? Thinkin' Amtrak within the construct of your analogy...what did I miss specifically?
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    Re: Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

    If there are kinks, we can work them out. What we know for a fact is the healthcare system we had wasn't going to work and was going to drive America into the ground. What we have now isn't perfect, but it's far better than where we were.

    All of these complaints about the current system seems silly. Progress is better than stagnation. ACA is progress. Free market healthcare is a guaranteed trainwreck.
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