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Mountain Dew Under Fire for 'Most Racist Commercial in History

Do you feel the commercial was racist?

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Dr. Chuckles said:
He is black. Did you ever see his picture, or did you just draw conclusions from his name?
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Bueller?

Lol, first you show the persistent ignorance still surrounding the "magic negro" comment by trying to debunk me, then you make some vague accusation of racism, because the guy had a white sounding name

Oy vey~!!!
 
Deuce said:
I'm actually less concerned about the racial stereotype and more concerned about what ****ing idiot thought this ad was a good idea? Who looked at this and thought "Yep, that's an effective ad campaign right there!"

Because they need to get canned.
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I agree. It's incomprehensible this idiotic commercial got past all the hurdles to the point that it was made. It's marginally racist and absolutely not funny. It's borderline surreal.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Depends: I imagine Mountain Dew is courting a demographic that isn't hypersensitive about such things, and embraces an image associated with risk to appeal to it.

But over all, I'm not seeing anything wrong with the add, besides it just generally sucking.
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Yeah, but what about the other people that are subjected to watching this **** on national TV? Like I said, lines should not be crossed.
 
What video - :(

Dr. Chuckles said:
He is black. Did you ever see his picture, or did you just draw conclusions from his name?
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It's all in the skin tone?

So - though my two sons have the same father - one has light skin like me . . . and the other has dark skin like his father. You think they're different 'races' because of the little skintone discrepancy?
 
Middleground said:
He is:
a) half-black
b) not a "liberal professor"

You fail at facts.
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just on a facts related note, technically i think he is a quarter, not sure if that matters but i THINK thats what is accurate.
 
Middleground said:
He is:
a) half-black
b) not a "liberal professor"

You fail at facts.
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right, his racial background is mixed (1/4 I believe), but like Obama, he would be considered 'black" in any social setting. Also, are we to believe that your issue was that I didn't call him half black, or is it more reasonable that your outrage was based on assuming that I was incorrectly labeling him as black, due to his white sounding name?

I would say the later is much more reasonable, especially when we consider your earlier attempt to attribute the magic negro comments origins to rush, despite the fact that your citation stated the exact opposite.

PS also, he has a pretty extensive scholarly background in the subject of film criticism, so I assumed he had taught at the university level. But apparently that isn't true, and I would have been more correct in identifying him as an academic. But, again, I doubt that was the source for your "fabrication" comment.

Buit if I made that big of an ass out of myself, I would try to save some face, as well
 
Aunt Spiker said:
What video - :(



It's all in the skin tone?

So - though my two sons have the same father - one has light skin like me . . . and the other has dark skin like his father. You think they're different 'races' because of the little skintone discrepancy?
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lol, this is getting hilarious

Just to clarify, you are aware that a photo conveys more information than merely skin tone?
 
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Middleground said:
Yeah, but what about the other people that are subjected to watching this **** on national TV? Like I said, lines should not be crossed.
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they can turn the channel
 
Middleground said:
Or, be outraged that they -- and their families -- as cable subscribers, are forced to watch that mysogenist ****.
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forced? No, they are free to change the channel. Technology has even rendered the need to get up to do so obsolete.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) didnt miss them at all LMAO im probably older than you are, i pointed out the reality of you making shallow claims based on the actions of morons which is part of the problem.
You are making illogical inane blanket statements and judgments.

are you saying that all or the majority of minorities think that saying McNabb is overrated is racist? if yes then you have a reality issue, if no then again the issue is still on your side because it shows you are smart enough to know thats not how the majority of minorities think but yet you are making blanket statements accusing them of it.

2.) there was no "AD GROUP" LOL
and you perspective is wrong because this and the group are being blasted, the group had to take it off their website as well.
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Right now what I am saying is you arent worth the time engaging in a discussion with. I actually legitimately attempted to have a discussion based on real instances where perspective mattered as much as who said what and your oh so significant contribution to the discussion was "huh?" "whut" and "I dont get it". Enjoy your thread.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
right, his racial background is mixed (1/4 I believe), but like Obama, he would be considered 'black" in any social setting. Also, are we to believe that your issue was that I didn't call him half black, or is it more reasonable that your outrage was based on assuming that I was incorrectly labeling him as black, due to his white sounding name?
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No. It was more like your [seemed] attempt to label the source as a typical granola-crunching liberal professor that many conservatives here like to use as a reason for today's societal ills. Adding his race made it seem even more like pushing an absurd point. All he did was write a column for a newspaper and used a term that Limbaugh pushed to the extreme limit.

I would say the later is much more reasonable, especially when we consider your earlier attempt to attribute the magic negro comments origins to rush, despite the fact that your citation stated the exact opposite.
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You've confused me with someone else. You seriously need to work on your facts.

PS also, he has a pretty extensive scholarly background in the subject of film criticism, so I assumed he had taught at the university level. But apparently that isn't true, and I would have been more correct in identifying him as an academic. But, again, I doubt that was the source for your "fabrication" comment.
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It wasn't the only component. But it needed correction in order for your post to be factually correct.

Buit if I made that big of an ass out of myself, I would try to save some face, as well
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:waiting:
 
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AGENT J said:
just on a facts related note, technically i think he is a quarter, not sure if that matters but i THINK thats what is accurate.
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Speaking as an African American whose last name has led to his racial "credentials" being challenged — often several times a day — I know how pesky this sort of thing can be.
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from the magic negro article.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
forced? No, they are free to change the channel. Technology has even rendered the need to get up to do so obsolete.
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And how would one control your kids from seeing it? Do parental controls work for commercials?
 
Middleground said:
No. It was more like your [seemed] attempt to label the source as a typical granola-crunching liberal professor that many conservatives here like to use as a reason for today's societal ills.
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you can lie, but it's obvious you saw his name and made assumptions about his racial background. It's like that quote you cited that you didn't even read.

Also, Ehrenstein is extremely liberal

Adding his race made it seem even more like pushing an absurd point.
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Uhh, that's because you don't read what you're responding to. We were discussing how the race of the individual making the statement goes into shaping the perceived reaction to it


You've confused me with someone else. You seriously need to work on your facts
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Nope, I am not confusing you with anyone

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...cist-commercial-history-7.html#post1061776297

I wasn't the only component. But it needed correction in order for your post to be factually correct.
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Right, because you saw his name and thought he was white.
 
Middleground said:
And how would one control your kids from seeing it? Do parental controls work for commercials?
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it's called parenting. If such is too controversial for your children, pop in some barney and veggies tales and lock them in their room
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
it's called parenting. If such is too controversial for your children, pop in some barney and veggies tales and lock them in their room
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If that's the case, and it's just so damn freakin' easy, why isn't there a daytime regular cable porn channel? Why is there not swearing?
 
Middleground said:
If that's the case, and it's just so damn freakin' easy, why isn't there a daytime regular cable porn channel? Why is there not swearing?
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are you seriously citing the mere existence of such regulation as a meaningful defense for it's need?
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Nope, I am not confusing you with anyone

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...cist-commercial-history-7.html#post1061776297
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Let's dea with this first, before you jump to more conclusions.

This is the quote I posted:


Your quote:
Barrack the magic negro was something coined by some liberal black professor talking about how white america has some fascination with "the magic negro". Rush Limbaugh picked up on it and was immediately accused of being racist
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My quote (from Wiki)
"Barack the Magic Negro"[2] is a song by American political satirist Paul Shanklin who wrote and recorded it for the Rush Limbaugh Show as satire after it was first applied to presidential candidate Obama by movie and culture critic David Ehrenstein in a Los Angeles Times op ed column of March 19, 2007.
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What I was pointing out:
1) A movie and culture critic is NOT a professor.
2) "Talking about it" is not writing about in a newspaper column.
3) He did not coin the phrase. Being a student in cinema studies, you should know that.

No where did I mention, according to you:

especially when we consider your earlier attempt to attribute the magic negro comments origins to rush
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No, I did not. I was -- as I have stated in many posts -- pointing out your inaccuracies. You seriously need to start using facts and stop making assumptions.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
are you seriously citing the mere existence of such regulation as a meaningful defense for it's need?
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Yeah. I mean if parents have an issue with nudity and swearing, they can just pop in Barney, right? Jeepers, easy-peasy, I say!
 
right, so we are to believe that your issue was with me calling him black, when he was only mixed race , even though he identifies himself as such and would be viewed as such in any social setting; that you also took issue with the use of professor as opposed to academic; and that I made the grave mistake of equating "obama the magic negro" with "Barrack the magic negro".

As opposed to the common mistake of assuming he was white based on his name.

I'm sorry, I'm not seeing the former as real substantial corrections to make issue over, while the later is common and more indicative of you remarks


No, I did not. I was -- as I have stated in many posts -- pointing out your inaccuracies. You seriously need to start using facts and stop making assumptions.
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No one is disputing you were attempting to correct inaccuracies. What is being questioned is what inaccuracies you were attempting to address and if they were actual innacuracies
 
Middleground said:
Yeah. I mean if parents have an issue with nudity and swearing, they can just pop in Barney, right? Jeepers, easy-peasy, I say!
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right, because those are your two options

PS the comment about Barney was meant to highlight the disconnect from popular culture that would seem to accompany the idea that this is particularly offensive when considered in that context
 
Middleground said:
All he did was write a column for a newspaper and used a term that Limbaugh pushed to the extreme limit.
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you should read the article before defending it
 
VanceMack said:
Right now what I am saying is you arent worth the time engaging in a discussion with. I actually legitimately attempted to have a discussion based on real instances where perspective mattered as much as who said what and your oh so significant contribution to the discussion was "huh?" "whut" and "I dont get it". Enjoy your thread.
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translation you cant defend your nonsensical illogical claim. Got it

the only real instances are once YOU received and when present with actual facts and reality that countered them you ignored it because they destroyed your position LOL

I will, thank

Enjoy failed argument.
 
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