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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Translation: Muslim + violence = terrorism?

    You have to commit an act of terrorism to be called a terrorist. In my world, shooting at enemy soldiers is not terrorism. In your world, all of our combat troops are terrorists.
    In Bizzaro Land, where you live, your desperation to buy the party line on this issue probably makes sense. For the rest of us, we accept reality and don't need it defined for us by politicians.
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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I actually served with a black muslim when I was in the navy. Really great guy, smart as hell and incredibly motivated. The problem is not the religion, it is what some people do in the name of religion.
    lol, right, the religion just works as a mechanism to dehumanize, while instigating such people be targeted for violence. Again, this is like claiming nazism had no impact on how the Germans reacted after ww1

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    I think they cleaned his dorm and threw out a backpack. I dont think they helped make the bombs or anything. I guess we will see though.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Again, from your own link:



    Do you have such a powerful need to be right on this point that you ignore the Federal definition and don't see his actions as intimidating?? Oh!! Or perhaps you are just that desperate to buy the party line.

    Your position is ridiculous. You really ought to stop.
    Whether you are intimidated or not is irrelevant. The issue is whether he intended to intimidate. There is no evidence he did.

    You can call his actions what you want, to fit your own personal definition of terrorism. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the government has to work within it's framework of laws, and we both know if the government deemed something to be what it is not necessarily under the law, you would be the first one crying about it.
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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, right, the religion just works as a mechanism to dehumanize, while instigating such people be targeted for violence. Again, this is like claiming nazism had no impact on how the Germans reacted after ww1
    I do not much care for religions for that reason. However, the problems with religions in general are much greater than specific religions.
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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Whether you are intimidated or not is irrelevant. The issue is whether he intended to intimidate. There is no evidence he did.

    You can call his actions what you want, to fit your own personal definition of terrorism. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the government has to work within it's framework of laws, and we both know if the government deemed something to be what it is not necessarily under the law, you would be the first one crying about it.
    I see what you are saying, but I don't see how it doesn't fit. I think the fact that he allegedly screamed out his God's name while committing the murders kind of shows an intent to intimidate people in the name of his God.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I see what you are saying, but I don't see how it doesn't fit. I think the fact that he allegedly screamed out his God's name while committing the murders kind of shows an intent to intimidate people in the name of his God.
    Possibly, but religious motivation does not fit under the US definition of terrorism. Politics and religion are different things in the eyes of the law, and with good reason.
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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Possibly, but religious motivation does not fit under the US definition of terrorism. Politics and religion are different things in the eyes of the law, and with good reason.
    I don't believe that's the case with Islam though. I think that Islam has all the bases covered, politics, religion, you name it. Obviously countries that are Muslim-dominated are theocracies for the most part with very few exceptions I think.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't believe that's the case with Islam though. I think that Islam has all the bases covered, politics, religion, you name it. Obviously countries that are Muslim-dominated are theocracies for the most part with very few exceptions I think.
    The Fort Hood attack happened in the US, perpetrated by an American. We are not a theocracy. Further, most religions get involved in politics.
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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Fort Hood attack happened in the US, perpetrated by an American. We are not a theocracy. Further, most religions get involved in politics.
    Point being, how to untangle that web and determine the exact motivation when the two are so closely entwined. Religion and politics I mean.

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