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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Closer, but there is no real evidence that I know of that his attack was motivated to end those wars.
    Well I thought I heard or read that he wrote some things suggesting that as a motivation. Also, I thought he also tried to get conscientious objector status? I could be wrong, but I thought that.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I actually served with a black muslim when I was in the navy. Really great guy, smart as hell and incredibly motivated. The problem is not the religion, it is what some people do in the name of religion.
    I used to have a couple who lived next door from me who were Muslim and were also very nice polite people who kept to themselves and minded their own business. I liked them a lot. I have nothing against Muslims, just the radicalized sector which WAS prominent predominantly in the ME, but now seems to be spreading like wild fire.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No one is suggesting that at all. It's RADICAL Islam that we are concerned with.
    I understand, however, there is PR and perception the DOD and the POTUS must pay attention to. Also troop morale. The last thing they want to do is to sew seeds of distrust of fellow troops.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    major hasan had nothing to do with terrorism

    DOD Labels Ft. Hood Attack 'Workplace Violence'
    Because the government won't call it terrorism, then it isn't terrorism? Are you people still listening to what politicians say instead of watching what they do?

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I understand, however, there is PR and perception the DOD and the POTUS must pay attention to. Also troop morale. The last thing they want to do is to sew seeds of distrust of fellow troops.
    Well, if that's who the "enemy" is that you are supposedly fighting against, then what you are saying really doesn't make any sense to me. Those who are NOT radicalized need not worry. That's like me being offended whenever someone says something negative about the KKK or something (in the sense that they are a radicalized group of white, supposed Christians).

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You and I have a different take on what happened. When somebody shoots up a place, killing 13 and wounding dozens more while shouting, "Allahu Akbar!!!" (God is great!!!)... when he is wearing the garb of the shaheed the morning of his jihad...when he was giving out qurans the morning of his jihad...and his business card said "soldier of allah," sorry, I just don't see that as workplace violence. Maybe that's just me.

    Not.

    What world do you live in?
    Translation: Muslim + violence = terrorism?

    You have to commit an act of terrorism to be called a terrorist. In my world, shooting at enemy soldiers is not terrorism. In your world, all of our combat troops are terrorists.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Translation: Muslim + violence = terrorism?

    You have to commit an act of terrorism to be called a terrorist. In my world, shooting at enemy soldiers is not terrorism. In your world, all of our combat troops are terrorists.
    No they aren't. They follow the rules of the Geneva Convention. NOT terrorists.

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Definitions of terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Show me which legal definition of terrorism it would fall under. Political motives seems to be a requirement, and there is no evidence he had one.
    I would say the evidence is more inconclusive. Being that we know he had contact with radical islamic elements and often cited the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as grievences. But at the same time was apparently going through the process of some mental breakdown

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Legally, religious motivation is not terrorism.
    lol, yes, if we ignore the political forms of religion like the christian identity movement or most of mainstream islam

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    Re: Boston PD Arrest 3 More Suspects in Bombing Plot -- Uh-oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Legally, religious motivation is not terrorism.

    The world that has laws. The law defines what is terrorism for purposes of the law. Emotional judgements are not the law. There is no evidence he tried to coerce or intimidate any one.
    Again, from your own link:

    The US Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "...the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"
    Do you have such a powerful need to be right on this point that you ignore the Federal definition and don't see his actions as intimidating?? Oh!! Or perhaps you are just that desperate to buy the party line.

    Your position is ridiculous. You really ought to stop.
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