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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    If a 15 year old even has the wisdom to know she should seek the morning after pill, then she would spare her parents a lot of agony by quietly dealing with. If she needs an abortion then she would definitely need parental permission, and that's when the can of worms really gets opened, whether her parents say yes or not.
    Or she will be missing a 'learning moment' that could have come from her parents knowing about it. And from what I understand, there are some states where even for an abortion at that age, parental permission is not needed...
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Sometimes. But I also think they are subject to political pressures which often times subvert the process. The FDA should probably just be part of NIST or some other research lab and should do little to listen to people or politicians.
    You live in NJ, one of the biggest states for pharmaceutical companies. There is a really good chance that one of your neighbors works for one. The FDA does not do any testing, the review the documentation and results from research, clinical studies, etc. of the submitting company and the documentation is massive. The FDA is not another organization like Good Housekeeping, Underwriters Laboratories or Consumers Union.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    The FDA can rule that it is safe for 15 year olds to have the drug but not that it can be administered without parental approval which is a State law issue.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    I have a huge problem with this. The problem I have is not having plan B available if women want it, but the government's circumventing of parental control here. IMHO, this is wrong.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Like it or not 15 year olds are sexual active.. they always have been and they always will be. Rather have them protected than not right?
    Hmmm... protected my not be the right phrase here. The existence of the morning after pill all but ensures that young girls will be less likely to have protected sex on the assumption they can fix it later.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Nothing but the further sexualization of our children.

    Then there's the bill in CA that would allow cross-dressing student to pick which bathroom to use or which sports team to try out for.

    It's PROGRESSIVE ya know.
    Your children are already sexualized. Access to this pill doesn't change that in any way. Nobody is going to go "Oh, I can get morning after pills? Forget abstinence, I'm totally having sex now!"

    Teenagers have sex. They always have and always will. You can accept that and try to educate and protect them, or let them get pregnant or sick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Hmmm... protected my not be the right phrase here. The existence of the morning after pill all but ensures that young girls will be less likely to have protected sex on the assumption they can fix it later.
    Nobody is going to deliberately forgo using protection just because the morning after pill exists. A teenager actually thinking about protection beforehand is going to get real protection. The trouble is that they usually don't think about it beforehand. The statistical reality is that the best way to reduce teen pregnancy and disease is comprehensive sexual education and easy access to protection. Not only do abstinence-only programs not work, they actively make things worse.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have a huge problem with this. The problem I have is not having plan B available if women want it, but the government's circumventing of parental control here. IMHO, this is wrong.
    Should children need parental permission to buy a soda? Tylenol? Condoms? Is your "huge problem" because of an emotional aversion to the idea that teenagers have sex, or is there some medical reasoning behind your treating condoms and morning after pills differently?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    American Pie!
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    Well, just to straighten you out. Parents do NOT forget what it was like to be a teen. They remember ALL TOO WELL, and that is why they freak out! That's not too hard to grasp, is it?
    And that proves that parents are kids who forgot how to be kids. Being allowed to be a teenager, to make mistakes and get guided as much as it is possible.. is how we mold our youth. Parents have an unrealistic memory of how it is to be a teenager.

    I completely agree with sex ed and birth control, etc. I do not agree with letting children make their own reproductive choices. I just don't see them as being responsible enough. That is why children are still under the control of their parents.
    Yes and rules are different depending on the country. Now in the US they are still behind the times so to say compared to some European countries.. and European countries tend to have more mature teens, and teens that dont go out and have unprotected sex and get pregnant. In most European countries, they not only are taught about the birds and bees at a young age, but also given access to contraception and medical aid at a young age... without parents knowledge. At age 15 in many countries, teenagers are pretty much legally independent when it comes to finances and their own bodies. They of course cant sign a contract before they are 18 or vote or drive, but they can drink, have sex, and spend and earn their own money.

    Another important point to consider is that parents ARE going to be responsible (financially and otherwise) if a child gets impregnated, or if anything else happens to that child. For that reason alone, the parents have a right to know if their child/children are sexually active, regardless of whether or not they had the "talk."
    That may be, but you know just as I do.. telling a teenager that they are not allowed to do X.. will push them to do X.... regardless what X is. Rebellion is part of growing up and when parents come and say "you are not to see that boy" to their teenage girl.. guess what she will do?
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Correct!
    I knew that!



    And that proves that parents are kids who forgot how to be kids. Being allowed to be a teenager, to make mistakes and get guided as much as it is possible.. is how we mold our youth. Parents have an unrealistic memory of how it is to be a teenager.
    But if they're going behind a parent's back and doing things without their knowledge, how can a parent guide them. How would a parent even know if the child has made a mistake unless the child feels as if they have to go to the parent or another responsible adult that they trust for help?


    Yes and rules are different depending on the country. Now in the US they are still behind the times so to say compared to some European countries.. and European countries tend to have more mature teens, and teens that dont go out and have unprotected sex and get pregnant. In most European countries, they not only are taught about the birds and bees at a young age, but also given access to contraception and medical aid at a young age... without parents knowledge. At age 15 in many countries, teenagers are pretty much legally independent when it comes to finances and their own bodies. They of course cant sign a contract before they are 18 or vote or drive, but they can drink, have sex, and spend and earn their own money.
    I'm sorry, but having sex doesn't make one an "adult." Anyone can have sex, ANY-ONE. Teens here can also drive and give consent (depending upon their age and the state they reside in, sometimes it depends upon parental consent as well). They can't drink until they are 21 here, and that is a GOOD law. Imagine 16 year old children drinking and driving?

    Also, teens here are also allowed to work and make their own money and handle their own finances as long as they apply for the proper paperwork. I believe the age is 15 when they can legally start working with what we call "working papers."



    That may be, but you know just as I do.. telling a teenager that they are not allowed to do X.. will push them to do X.... regardless what X is. Rebellion is part of growing up and when parents come and say "you are not to see that boy" to their teenage girl.. guess what she will do?
    Oops! I almost missed this one! You don't have to threaten your child when speaking with them about things. There are other ways in which parents can approach and talk with their teens.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There are other ways in which parents can approach and talk with their teens.
    Isn't that the issue though? You're expecting parents to actually parent.

    Since obviously most don't know how, or don't care to... the alternative is...

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