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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If this were about abortion I would be right there with you, because an abortion is an invasive procedure and even 17 year-olds have to get consent for any other kind of procedure, or hell even an ear piercing or tattoo.

    However, Plan-B is just a pill, and it does not cause an abortion, so I see no ethical dilemma in allowing 15 year-olds access to it.
    well as stated before, a minor had to get permission from an adult to buy it for them...this means the parents knows the minor's situation, and makes the decision.

    now the parents decision has been removed, because the minor can purchase with parental knowledge.

    the individuals who like this, like the idea the parents are out of the loop.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we will then apply that to all drugs and alcohol, and expect the parent then to protect them.
    The legal drinking age in Ireland is 16. Here in SD we're trying to lower it to 18.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well as stated before, a minor had to get permission from an adult to buy it for them...this means the parents knows the minor's situation, and makes the decision.

    now the parents decision has been removed, because the minor can purchase with parental knowledge.

    the individuals who like this, like the idea the parents are out of the loop.
    As a general parenting philosophy, I train my children to be autonomous anyway. They do their own laundry, they do chores for money...many things. This fits right in.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we will then apply that to all drugs and alcohol, and expect the parent then to protect them.
    There's a difference between drugs that have been shown to be harmful, and those that have not
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As a general parenting philosophy, I train my children to be autonomous anyway. They do their own laundry, they do chores for money...many things. This fits right in.
    i applaud you for your decision, however everyone is not the same

    this is simply a decision, to get parents out of the loop of their control over the children, of the reproductive arena.

    since it is a minor ..its their arena........when the child becomes an adult, it not.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There's a difference between drugs that have been shown to be harmful, and those that have not
    why dont you just be honest, ...and that is you do not wish the parents, to know of any sexual activity of the child, by this minor being able to receive this drug.

    if the parents wanted the child to have the drug, it can be freely obtained for them, this gets around those parents who do not want it for their child.

    circumvention!

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i applaud you for your decision, however everyone is not the same

    this is simply a decision, to get parents out of the loop of their control over the children, of the reproductive arena.

    since it is a minor ..its their arena........when the child becomes an adult, it not.
    If you didn't give your consent before your child had sex in the first place, then I would say you're already out of the loop.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you didn't give your consent before your child had sex in the first place, then I would say you're already out of the loop.
    true, but by parental permission, my child, will need to info me, if she wishes it, so we can have a discussion of the subject, ..if this their is no discussion it remains a secret.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There's a difference between drugs that have been shown to be harmful, and those that have not
    It sometimes takes a long time to learn that "safe" drugs are, in fact, harmful. Again, consider DES and early forms of "the pill." All perfectly safe...until the cancers and etc. began showing up.

    And that's one point: We do not know what the long-term effects of Plan B will be. But we can look to the history of drugs which involve female hormones, and that history advises caution.

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    Re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    true, but by parental permission, my child, will need to info me, if she wishes it, so we can have a discussion of the subject, ..if this their is no discussion it remains a secret.
    IOW, you want a Nanny State Govt to enforce your discipline
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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