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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it has noting to do with faith, it has to do with rights?

    its my child, the child does not belong to the state.
    You don't own your children

    No one does
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As a parent I agree that parents and children should have an open line of communication on many topics, sex included.

    If the parent and child already have that openness, then there's no concern. If that openness doesn't exist, this is not the time to 'out' the teen's sex life. Establishing healthy communication is an ongoing process, whereas the teen has about 72hrs for Plan-B to be of any use.
    In the JAMA link, it says that there was no correlation between offering this pill over the counter to all females and any decline in pregnancy rates. However, I believe there WAS a rise in STDs related to the use of this pill. So perhaps some teens might pass on the birth control pills and just go with the morning after pill. Apparently that must be the case in a lot of situations. Is THAT the right time for parents to be involved in their teen's sex lives? When they have to pay for their medical treatment for their venereal diseases?

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You don't own your children

    No one does
    You are wrong. As parents we are held legally responsible for EVERYTHING our children do. If my minor child breaks the law, I CAN be held responsible. There was a case i my area of vandalism by a couple of 14-year-olds, and the parents were financially liable for all damages, which totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get a clue.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In my view, Plan-B is morally identical NyQuil.
    Fun Fact: 'PM' over-the-counter medications are all illegal to buy, own or posses, in Ireland; without a prescription. Possessing a box of Benadril in Ireland will land you in prison.

    ...but you can legally drink alcohol at 16.

    Ireland is a silly place.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It really matters to people on this thread who are trying to understand where you're coming from.

    In my view, Plan-B is morally identical NyQuil. I don't understand why a parent would want to refuse their child medicine like that.
    since it is you jerry, and, and i believe your honest about this.

    here goes to the question "does the state have authority over my child, a minor ....or do i"?

    can the state deny my parental rights , and allow my child to purchase the drug and take it without my permission.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    In the JAMA link, it says that there was no correlation between offering this pill over the counter to all females and any decline in pregnancy rates. However, I believe there WAS a rise in STDs related to the use of this pill. So perhaps some teens might pass on the birth control pills and just go with the morning after pill. Apparently that must be the case in a lot of situations. Is THAT the right time for parents to be involved in their teen's sex lives? When they have to pay for their medical treatment for their venereal diseases?
    There is no evidence that Plan B causes a rise in STDs.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You don't own your children

    No one does
    until they are adults i care for them, and i am responsible for them...if i am not i can go to jail.

    what i say goes!

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You are wrong. As parents we are held legally responsible for EVERYTHING our children do. If my minor child breaks the law, I CAN be held responsible. There was a case i my area of vandalism by a couple of 14-year-olds, and the parents were financially liable for all damages, which totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get a clue.
    No, the law does not hold parents liable for the actions of their children. That is a lie
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    until they are adults i care for them, and i am responsible for them...if i am not i can go to jail.

    what i say goes!
    Wrong again
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it has noting to do with faith, it has to do with rights?

    its my child, the child does not belong to the state.


    Correct. But the state should probably be looking out for the child's rights. No person , supposedly, "owns" another person.................
    Last edited by Bonzai; 05-02-13 at 12:59 AM.

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