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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    my question is this the FDA is run by bureaucrats ,not by elected officials...(accountable people), when did they receive any authority under our Constitution to issue orders to the people and say , 15 yr old girl can receive this drug.....above the objections of a parent?

    if a parnet wishes the child to have the drug, that is fine, but government issuing an order...that is not constitutional.....government has no authority over the people in the u.s. constitution.


    I think most parents would prefer dealing with the use of birth control by their 15 year old than dealing with their 15 year old becoming a parent............Those that haven't lost sight of all logic and proportion, that is......................

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    weird are you just going to dodge my question

    Iam not familiar with this issue at all so you will have to fill me and answer my question.

    does the law specifically say the child must be given the drug if its asked for even against parents will and against non-consent?
    from what i listened to today, the news stated the FDA ordered that this drug be made available to 15 yr olds.

    the executive branch has no power to issue orders to the people in the u.s.. constitution..that what be a dictatorship.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    I still think it's best that it be used under conditions of use use and parental consent.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I think most parents would prefer dealing with the use of birth control by their 15 year old than dealing with their 15 year old becoming a parent............Those that haven't lost sight of all logic and proportion, that is......................
    i have no problem with the child, and parent discussing the issue and both deciding what is best.

    but government!......it has no authority to issue orders, and go above the heads of parents.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    from what i listened to today, the news stated the FDA ordered that this drug be made available to 15 yr olds.

    the executive branch has no power to issue orders to the people in the u.s.. constitution..that what be a dictatorship.
    So you dont like that the government told the FDA what to do? well at times i could agree with that, at times id be fine with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    So - if this keeps up then at some point there will be no point in trying to parent our teens . . . they'll just take over all those decisions for us because a few parents are pieces of ****.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    I believe "adults" will have sex with "children" regardless of whether society says they should or not, and since they will, we shouldn't imprison them. It's not complicated.



    Nope, I think teens will continue to have sex, with other teens and with adults. And they should be allowed to take contraceptives as well.
    If we stop imprisoning adults who have sex with children, we'll just beat them to death in the streets.

    In the meantime, HELL NO!

    Children may not be old enough to consent, and they may have sex anyway, but adults are expected to know better and WILL be punished accordingly.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    So the easy way out is to let them get pregnant? *confused*



    What does your question have to do with OTC emergency contraception?

    If it's OTC, they don't need to see a doctor and thus no insurance is required.



    Maybe a better policy then would be to let her get the morning after pill, but the pharmacist has to place a call to the legal guardian?

    I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of preventing an unwanted pregnancy. The more bureaucracy means the less time there is to implement the MAP.



    I don't think this question is relevant given that they ARE having sex and thus they are exposing themselves to the potential consequences. It only makes sense to give them access to some tools to deal with those consequences as well.

    Girls are hitting puberty more and more early as time passes, likely because of the synthetic estrogens now in all the packaged and processed food people are eating. We're going to have to start getting used to the fact that girls are going to start being sexually active younger and younger because of our society's lifestyle.
    The easy way out is not getting them to talk to their parents about getting this pill for them or better yet getting put on birth control. This will not prevent pregnancies in the long run. It will just delay them to a later date. It provides an easy, although certainly not cheap, way for teens to feel that it is okay for them to have sex without having to worry about anything. They will figure "well there is always Plan B" when they feel like having sex. And no, it won't be all teens, but it will likely be those teens least likely to go to their parents about this in the first place. After all, if they were responsible, they wouldn't have to worry about needing the MAP in most cases because they would be on regular birth control, they would be using condoms, they wouldn't be having irresponsible sex to begin with as teens.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    If we stop imprisoning adults who have sex with children, we'll just beat them to death in the streets.

    In the meantime, HELL NO!

    Children may not be old enough to consent, and they may have sex anyway, but adults are expected to know better and WILL be punished accordingly.
    That's a logical contradiction. If it's ok for them to have sex then it shouldn't matter who they are having sex with. If it's not ok, then it shouldn't matter either. In either case, it shouldn't matter.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    YEs, we must punish children who have sex!!!

    Thanks for demonstrating why parents should not be informed
    Wrong. There are many consequences of sex. The least wanted is actually an STD of some sort that we don't yet have a cure for. Pregnancy is there, but pregnancy is much better prevented by actually getting a teen who is having sex on birth control and explaining to them why the MAP should be used as emergency birth control, not their main form. And if they can't go to their parents when they need Plan B, it probably means they aren't on birth control, since you need a prescription for birth control.

    The consequences of having sex and needing Plan B should be going to actually ask your parent to get it for you, even if that means facing them with what you did. Most teens would not be turned out by their parents for it. They may face some disappointment from them but so what? What is the big deal about having parents who are disappointed in their children temporarily for having sex while a teenager? Pretty sure many parents would feel at least some pride in their child coming to them when they make a mistake. Most of the fear that parents are going to harm or disown a teen for having sex is just irrational fear of a teenaged mind. Very few parents would actually kick their teenaged daughters out for having sex. They would merely fell disappointed in them.
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