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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So what's your solution to combating teenage pregnancy? Gonna stick to that whole "abstinence" thing that seems to work so well?
    Oh man, when I was young the abstinence girls were awesome. They would do ANYTHING... except that one thing.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm very concerned about the potential long-term effects on young bodies of this pill and also about the easy-to-imagine abuse of it by kids.
    Be more worried about American's diet rich in sugar and salt.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Be more worried about American's diet rich in sugar and salt.
    That's a problem that can be addressed right now. We don't know what the long-term effects will be on young female bodies (and yes, I'm aware that the Europeans have reported no problems).

    What's really cool is that you can worry about cardiovascular disease caused by a poor diet and be concerned about long-term effects of drugs all at the same time.

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is hardly surprising when you realize that the Obama administration, within the past 6 months, hired a former lobbiest for the manufacturer of the Plan B drug as the lead attorney for the Department of Health and Human Services. This lobbiest also happened to be a Deputy Commissioner with the FDA during the Clinton administration.

    Why bother with lobbying when you can get right in the hen house and be part of the decision making process.
    Wonderful that you dug beneath the surface, sad that you found only what you wanted and not the truth.

    The FDA ruled that the drug could only be sold to people 17 and older with proof of age. A suit was filed in federal court that basically argued that since the drug was found to be safe for any age, that this was a capricious rule. The out ruled for the plaintive and required the drug to be sold without ANY age restriction. The FDA is STILL in violation if this ruling, but are willing to push the issue by making the rule 15 years old WITH proof of age.

    The FDA is being conservative here, but nice try.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, the OP talks about the FDA basically accepting the court ruling without challenging it. Who do you think advised the Secretary of HHS on the matter?
    Who do you represented the FDA, defending the rule?

    Beyond that, the FDA is STILL refusing to accept the ruling and is pressing the issue by having an age restriction (with ID required) at all.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    While I agree with making Plan-B available, it's a drug which does need to be supervised. It's a powerful medication and as others have noting will be the target of shoplifters.
    I think you are confusing Plan b with RU486.

    The manufacturer is placing antitheft devices in each box.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    And now I am curious to see someone make the argument that 15 year old's are mature enough to consent to having an abortion but not mature enough to consent to having sex.
    Neither are being discussed here and a 15 year is not old enough to consent to either.

    Are you confusing Plan B with an abortion inducement drug?

    It's not, it is a contraceptive, it has no effect on a fertilized egg.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Neither are being discussed here and a 15 year is not old enough to consent to either.

    Are you confusing Plan B with an abortion inducement drug?

    It's not, it is a contraceptive, it has no effect on a fertilized egg.
    So 15 year olds are old enough to consent to sex?

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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Plan-B is not designed to cause an abortion. Plan-B prevents the release of an egg, therefore no conception occurs.

    Plan-B does not interfere with a fertilized egg implanting, so if a zygote is formed the pregnancy will proceed as normal even if Plan-B is used (which occurs @10% of the time).

    I agree with lowering the age, and I agree with making Plan-B available without a prescription, but it should remain behind a locked case. It is not the 15 y/o customer I'm worried about, it's the shoplifters.
    Good to see you come around.

    I don't disagree with it being behind the retail counter with cigs and porn, other age restricted products. It does have an antitheft device in the box, but they just let you know when someone is stealing, they don't run out the door and catch 'me for you.
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    re: Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    The manufacturer is placing antitheft devices in each box.
    Oh, well it's ok then, because nobody has ever been able to steal something with an anti-theft device, ever.
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