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Drug Agency Lowers Age For Next-Day Birth Control [W:297]

Jerry said:
As a parent I agree that parents and children should have an open line of communication on many topics, sex included.

If the parent and child already have that openness, then there's no concern. If that openness doesn't exist, this is not the time to 'out' the teen's sex life. Establishing healthy communication is an ongoing process, whereas the teen has about 72hrs for Plan-B to be of any use.
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In the JAMA link, it says that there was no correlation between offering this pill over the counter to all females and any decline in pregnancy rates. However, I believe there WAS a rise in STDs related to the use of this pill. So perhaps some teens might pass on the birth control pills and just go with the morning after pill. Apparently that must be the case in a lot of situations. Is THAT the right time for parents to be involved in their teen's sex lives? When they have to pay for their medical treatment for their venereal diseases?
 
sangha said:
You don't own your children

No one does
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You are wrong. As parents we are held legally responsible for EVERYTHING our children do. If my minor child breaks the law, I CAN be held responsible. There was a case i my area of vandalism by a couple of 14-year-olds, and the parents were financially liable for all damages, which totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get a clue.
 
Jerry said:
In my view, Plan-B is morally identical NyQuil.
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Fun Fact: 'PM' over-the-counter medications are all illegal to buy, own or posses, in Ireland; without a prescription. Possessing a box of Benadril in Ireland will land you in prison.

...but you can legally drink alcohol at 16.

Ireland is a silly place.
 
Jerry said:
It really matters to people on this thread who are trying to understand where you're coming from.

In my view, Plan-B is morally identical NyQuil. I don't understand why a parent would want to refuse their child medicine like that.
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since it is you jerry, and, and i believe your honest about this.

here goes to the question "does the state have authority over my child, a minor ....or do i"?

can the state deny my parental rights , and allow my child to purchase the drug and take it without my permission.
 
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ChrisL said:
In the JAMA link, it says that there was no correlation between offering this pill over the counter to all females and any decline in pregnancy rates. However, I believe there WAS a rise in STDs related to the use of this pill. So perhaps some teens might pass on the birth control pills and just go with the morning after pill. Apparently that must be the case in a lot of situations. Is THAT the right time for parents to be involved in their teen's sex lives? When they have to pay for their medical treatment for their venereal diseases?
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There is no evidence that Plan B causes a rise in STDs.
 
ChrisL said:
You are wrong. As parents we are held legally responsible for EVERYTHING our children do. If my minor child breaks the law, I CAN be held responsible. There was a case i my area of vandalism by a couple of 14-year-olds, and the parents were financially liable for all damages, which totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Get a clue.
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No, the law does not hold parents liable for the actions of their children. That is a lie
 
ernst barkmann said:
it has noting to do with faith, it has to do with rights?

its my child, the child does not belong to the state.
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Correct. But the state should probably be looking out for the child's rights. No person , supposedly, "owns" another person.................
 
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Also a great idea for those teens who are trying to hide something from their parents, say something like a relationship with an older man?
 
Bonzai said:
Correct. But the state should probably being looking out for the child's rights. No person , supposedly, "owns" another person.................
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i dont own my child meaning... i cannot make a slave of that child, hurt that child, mistreat that child, however a child does not have rights to make their own decisions.

children are susceptible to the first shiny thing that comes along, then when they find theirs a hook in it........ its too late.
 
ernst barkmann said:
i dont own my child meaning... i cannot make a slave of that child, hurt that child, mistreat that child, however a child does not have rights to make their own decisions.

children are susceptible to the first shiny thing that comes along, then when they find theirs a hook in it........ its too late.
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Actually, children do have the right to buy Plan B
 
sangha said:
You don't own your children

No one does
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Besides the state, right?

If nobody owns their children, then children should be able to decide for themselves who they have sex with.
 
ernst barkmann said:
i dont know what world you live in.......it must be another one.

here you are responsible for a minor if he breaks the law.
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Nope. As ChrisL's link shows, it's only for "intentional wrongful actions".

Doesn't apply to Plan B or pregnancy
 
sangha said:
It only applies to intentional wrongful acts, and is limited in damages

Taking Plan B is not an intentional wrongful act and does no damage to another persons property or person
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It COULD do damage to a person. You cannot claim that. The only "evidence" you have is actually a tiny little speck when it comes to understanding complications related to medications, especially when they are made available to those with a higher potential for abusing that medication.

Also, if you want to get technical, the fact that more teens have developed sexually transmitted infections since this medication has been readily available to them, that kind of insinuates a harm.
 
ChrisL said:
Also a great idea for those teens who are trying to hide something from their parents, say something like a relationship with an older man?
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If your kid has reached that point, I think they're already way beyond your control....................
 
ChrisL said:
It COULD do damage to a person. You cannot claim that. The only "evidence" you have is actually a tiny little speck when it comes to understanding complications related to medications, especially when they are made available to those with a higher potential for abusing that medication.

Also, if you want to get technical, the fact that more teens have developed sexually transmitted infections since this medication has been readily available to them, that kind of insinuates a harm.
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There is no evidence that Plan B damages people who take it.

And there is no evidence that Plan B causes STD's

Besides, didn't you say that your concern was with parental notification, and not with a teens ability to buy and take Plan B?

Or was that also untrue?

ChrisL said:
I don't have a problem with a 15-year-old who wants to use this drug. My problem is the without parental knowledge part. That's just not smart at all IMO.
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