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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That would be the Clinton administration that ignore or neglected these warnings, going all the way back to a very big and obvious warning in 1993. I'll remind you that while the actual attack took place very early in G.W. Bush's administration, all the planning and preparation for it, along with all the warnings that ought to have been apparent to a government that was paying enough attention, took place on Clinton's watch.
    Clearly a lot of it does go back to Clinton, but it's not as if Bush would have been powerless over actionable intelligence.

    The point was that there likely wasn't a lot of actionable intelligence prior to Benghazi, just as there wasn't before 9/11. So blaming Obama is as pointless as blaming Bush for 9/11.


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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You brought up the "right wing talk show host" as a pathetic comparison to Politicians who are so corrupt, so devoid of character, integrity and compassion, they would lie to the faces of the Family who lost their loved ones in Benghazzi.

    You guys will sell out on just about any level.

    The thing is you folks think of that as a positive, it just means that the train wrecks are much larger.
    I pointed out the right's propensity to stick up for their own folks. It's just as strong as that on the left. Only an idiot wouldn't see that. Heck, I've seen right on this very board, people who are still defending Nixon.

    The one who blew it up into a bad analogy was you.


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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I disagree with part of your statement.
    The "who" is arbitrary, the why is what's important. We have already investigated the why and have already begun making those changes.

    Those who are in need to know already know plenty, as evidenced by the mountains of documents and testimony transcripts, etc.
    No, I wasn't. I was attacking the notion people should not be allowed to question the validity of a source, especially given the dubious nature of this source.

    I wasn't attacking the article, I was attacking the ridiculous idea one should not question a possibly biased source.

    A little worrisome, yes.
    A) not really and B) this article does that in what way? It doesn't. It just fans the flames. It's meant for people just like you, who only want to listen to that which you already agree with, not something which might provide the slightest bit of objectivity.

    What we need to know is WHY the process broke down and what can be done (if anything) to prevent in the future. The YouTube thing is nothing but a red herring. It was a red herring when presented by Democrats immediately after and it is a red herring now by Republicans to push a "cover-up" narrative. The YouTube discussion is a waste of time and the fact you're still talking about it is a waste of both of our time.

    And we know why troops weren't sent in after we began received word of the assaults, we've already been told why. It was during the testimonies. So what we need to do is figure how the logistics to be better equipped for the future. That's what matters.

    I'll make you a deal. The moment you quit thinking everything a Democrat/liberal does is wrong, evil and scummy, I'll consider taking advice from you. Until that time comes, you'll just be another incredibly biased poster in my eyes.

    While it really is irrelevant to this particular thread, feel free to watch more Jon Stewart or check out LiberalViewer on YouTube. There's no doubt they have their biases as well, but you cannot ignore the video evidence they provide.
    " The Process " broke down because it was Politically expediant to have a Libyan Ambassador, on the ground in Benghazi just prior to the election.

    After he was murdered by terroist, NOT a uprising or riot it was politically expediant for them to first, Publicize a vague YouTube Video, make sure it was distributed to as many radical Islamic backwater countries as possible and then blame everything on the director.

    All other secondary issues could be ignored, like safety or more security, or at least more security on SEPTEMBER 11TH !!!!

    Ya think ?

    And I'll stop looking upon the libs as scummy low life individuals when they show sincere HUMAN attributes like Character and Integrity, and SINCERE COMPASSION instead of putting their political well being first and foremost.

    After Benghazzi they reminded me of adolescent punks who scrambled to get their lies straight so they could fool the morons.

    Well we're not all Obama voters, and don't arbitrarily believe everything that they tell us, especially when its an OBVIOUS lie.

    Otherwise if it walks like a duck, quaks like a duck and flies like a duck...

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I pointed out the right's propensity to stick up for their own folks. It's just as
    strong as that on the left. Only an idiot wouldn't see that. Heck, I've seen right on this very board, people who are still defending Nixon.

    The one who blew it up into a bad analogy was you.

    Funny you should mention Nixon. At least he didn't get his Ambassador killed because he needed a political prop for a election.

    A "victory" for his foreign affairs "brilliance".

    He was ten times the leader Obama is, and was taken down for something Democrats get a slap on the wrist for these days.

    Hell Sandy Berger shoved Top Secret documents in his socks, walked out with them, Clinton perjured himself. Appointed a ***kin criminal to run Fannie Mae, Oh but Nixon is evil. BS dude

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Funny you should mention Nixon. At least he didn't get his Ambassador killed because he needed a political prop for a election.

    A "victory" for his foreign affairs "brilliance".

    He was ten times the leader Obama is, and was taken down for something Democrats get a slap on the wrist for these days.

    Hell Sandy Berger shoved Top Secret documents in his socks, walked out with them, Clinton perjured himself. Appointed a ***kin criminal to run Fannie Mae, Oh but Nixon is evil. BS dude
    Point proved, thank you.

    You'll defend anyone and anything if they're a Republican. Then you scream about partisanship. THAT's BS.


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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Point proved, thank you.



    You'll defend anyone and anything if they're a Republican. Then you scream about partisanship. THAT's BS.
    Why are you here ? To make a point that Benghazzi is just ideologues protecting their President ? Is that the point of the OP ? Or just you and your mitigation ?

    FYI Nixon's not President, Obama is and people should be held responsible for a disaster that far out clipped anything Nixon did.

    For a level of dishonesty that would make even hardcore socio-paths blush.

    Try to stay on task.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Why are you here ? To make a point that Benghazzi is just ideologues protecting their President ? Is that the point of the OP ? Or just you and your mitigation ?

    FYI Nixon's not President, Obama is and people should be held responsible for a disaster that far out clipped anything Nixon did.

    For a level of dishonesty that would make even hardcore socio-paths blush.

    Try to stay on task.
    Oh, NOW you want to get back on track....sure....


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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I disagree with part of your statement. The "who" is arbitrary, the why is what's important. We have already investigated the why and have already begun making those changes.

    Those who are in need to know already know plenty, as evidenced by the mountains of documents and testimony transcripts, etc.
    No, I wasn't. I was attacking the notion people should not be allowed to question the validity of a source, especially given the dubious nature of this source.

    I wasn't attacking the article, I was attacking the ridiculous idea one should not question a possibly biased source.

    A little worrisome, yes.
    A) not really and B) this article does that in what way? It doesn't. It just fans the flames. It's meant for people just like you, who only want to listen to that which you already agree with, not something which might provide the slightest bit of objectivity.

    What we need to know is WHY the process broke down and what can be done (if anything) to prevent in the future. The YouTube thing is nothing but a red herring. It was a red herring when presented by Democrats immediately after and it is a red herring now by Republicans to push a "cover-up" narrative. The YouTube discussion is a waste of time and the fact you're still talking about it is a waste of both of our time.

    And we know why troops weren't sent in after we began received word of the assaults, we've already been told why. It was during the testimonies. So what we need to do is figure how the logistics to be better equipped for the future. That's what matters.

    I'll make you a deal. The moment you quit thinking everything a Democrat/liberal does is wrong, evil and scummy, I'll consider taking advice from you. Until that time comes, you'll just be another incredibly biased poster in my eyes.

    While it really is irrelevant to this particular thread, feel free to watch more Jon Stewart or check out LiberalViewer on YouTube. There's no doubt they have their biases as well, but you cannot ignore the video evidence they provide.
    Obviously they dont 'know' and neither do you. Of course...the who is never important...when it is someone you are invested in protecting. It IS absolutely important to determine all of those characteristics...unless of course...as discussed...you have something to hide...or in this case, someones ass to cover.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, I wasn't. I was attacking the notion people should not be allowed to question the validity of a source, especially given the dubious nature of this source.

    I wasn't attacking the article, I was attacking the ridiculous idea one should not question a possibly biased source.
    Just to refresh your memory:
    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, imagine the audacity of people to suggest something a Republican lawyer told a disreputable Republican news site may not quite be as serious as suggested...
    Yep, you were attacking the source. Not the substance.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You keep "forgetting" that the CIA was in charge of security in Benghazi not the State Dept.

    CIA Takes Heat for Role in Libya - WSJ.com
    The CIA's secret role helps explain why security appeared inadequate at the U.S. diplomatic facility. State Department officials believed that responsibility was set to be shouldered in part by CIA personnel in the city through a series of secret agreements that even some officials in Washington didn't know about.
    Whether the CIA took over part or all of the security concerns, ultimately it was the state department's responsibility to ensure security. As it always has been, as it still is today.

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