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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Point proved, thank you.

    You'll defend anyone and anything if they're a Republican. Then you scream about partisanship. THAT's BS.
    What's real BS is bringing up Richard Nixon. It seemed previously that leftist history only went back as far as George Bush, so it's somewhat impressive that you actually knew who Richard Nixon was.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    The bottom line here is that we all know what happened, or at least a reasonable scenario of the event...And the fact that the administration is going to such lengths to cover it up, should bother both demo's and reps alike...It says a lot that there is an active cover up going on and the press is in on it.
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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    You read it again:


    You're attacking the source, not the substance.
    Really? You're going to make me draw you a picture?

    dp_zpsb946af99.jpg

    Pay particular attention to the sword so large I need both hands to hold it, the jealousy inducing chin goatee and the kickass bandana. Also know the incredibly large penis is being concealed because of the possibility of ladies swooning. Do you now understand I'm not attacking the original post, but rather the idea people are not allowed to question the source? I mean, if that fantastic drawing (done in MS paint, mind you) doesn't explain it to you in terms you can understand, I don't know what will.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Really? You're going to make me draw you a picture?

    dp_zpsb946af99.jpg

    Pay particular attention to the sword so large I need both hands to hold it, the jealousy inducing chin goatee and the kickass bandana. Also know the incredibly large penis is being concealed because of the possibility of ladies swooning. Do you now understand I'm not attacking the original post, but rather the idea people are not allowed to question the source? I mean, if that fantastic drawing (done in MS paint, mind you) doesn't explain it to you in terms you can understand, I don't know what will.
    Unfortunately, what you don't seem to understand is that to attack the source is an ad hominem fallacy.

    One of the few fallacies known better by its Latin nomenclature than its English equivalent, the Ad hominem fallacy occurs when one makes an issue of the arguer himself, rather than his argument. The intent is more than just to hurl an insult, it's the act of insulting with the intent of undermining the credibility or competence of the arguer, so that one simply ignores the argument altogether. So the intent is to get people to simply dismiss the argument without ever considering it.
    There are valid forms of ad hominem - in the case of testimony, the character of testifier is the source of credibility for the claim. However, to doubt or reject a valid deduction based on the source, is an ad hominem fallacy.

    http://editthis.info/logic/Informal_...nst_the_Person
    So you can either debate the points of the article, or bow out in your utter defeat through the use of fallacies.
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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Unfortunately, what you don't seem to understand is that to attack the source is an ad hominem fallacy.
    But I'm not attacking the source, I'm attacking the idea you cannot question a dubious source. Geez, I even drew a picture for you. And it was a great picture too.

    By the way, pre-emptively stating "but get ready for the bots to attack everything from the source..." is known as "Poisoning the Well", which is a type of ad hominem fallacy. So, really, you started it...and are kind of the only one engaging in it.

    So you can either debate the points of the article
    I didn't dispute the article, I disputed the idea we cannot ever question the validity of the source (which, by the way, is NOT a fallacy, no matter how much you want to make it one, until it's actually used as argument in opposition to the original platform). So, not only did I not engage in a fallacious argument, you've shown you don't truly understand fallacies. But my favorite part of your post is the next part...

    or bow out in your utter defeat through the use of fallacies.
    Considering you started this entire discussion with an ad hominem of poisoning the well, I expect your concession within your next post.

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's real BS is bringing up Richard Nixon. It seemed previously that leftist history only went back as far as George Bush, so it's somewhat impressive that you actually knew who Richard Nixon was.
    Bunch of old farts around tonight.
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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's real BS is bringing up Richard Nixon. It seemed previously that leftist history only went back as far as George Bush, so it's somewhat impressive that you actually knew who Richard Nixon was.
    Really, you taking it out of context isn't BS?

    WE should just start a thread with all the buzzwords that righties read for so they know how to respond.


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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Really, you taking it out of context isn't BS?

    WE should just start a thread with all the buzzwords that righties read for so they know how to respond.
    What 'context' could Richard Nixon possibly provide except as a diversion from "Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Says"?

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) made the following statement in response to President Barack Obama’s assertion that he’s “not familiar” with Benghazi whistleblowers being blocked from telling their stories:

    “A lawyer for Benghazi whistleblowers has publicly stated that the State Department is blocking her client’s ability to talk freely with counsel. Over the past two weeks, I have sent four letters requesting that this Administration make information available about how lawyers – who already have security clearances and are representing Benghazi whistleblowers – can be cleared to fully hear their clients’ stories. I have yet to receive any response from the Obama Administration.

    “Even if the President really doesn’t know anything about someone wanting to come forward, his position should be that whistleblowers deserve protection and that anyone who has different information about Benghazi is free to come forward to Congress. The President’s unwillingness to commit himself to protecting whistleblowers only aids those in his Administration who are intimidating them.”
    Committee On Oversight & Government Reform

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    Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Really? You're going to make me draw you a picture?
    No, you will accept that you have attacked the source and not the substance of the article.
    As I have clearly pointed out.

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