“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
― Stephen R. Covey
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The fact that Obama called the guy personally to tell him he is a good guy for admitting he is gay, is about as rediculous as I have seen.
The media and the White House are making sure this is a big story. It would not be otherwise.
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Interesting choice of examples, considering that most things that are actually about national defense are kept secret and considered things that we do not need to know about.Issues on national defense are important to us collectively, because they do have an impact on our lives, regardless of how we perceive them as individuals.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.
The topic of an openly gay active player in one of the four major American team sports has been discussed in great detail over the last few months. The issue was already a topic of conversation across the nation, it merely became a topic of national conversation when the discussion went from the level of speculation to the level of confirmed.
Sports illustrated ran a sports story. It was a big sports story. That sports story spurred a national conversation. It went from being a simple sports story, reported on by sporting news outlets (like the media outlet that broke the sports story) to a news story almost instantly because it is a big deal.The White House Spokesman commenting on it made it a topic of national conversation.
First: the government didn't react. I see no laws about this. There have been no military actions.His coming out in and of itself did not, it is the medias and the governments reaction to it that did.
Second: Obviously his coming out WAS a big deal, regardless of YOUR OPINION of it. It's not like this was initially reported by a general news outlet. If it wasn't a big deal, it would have remained on the sports pages where it started.
Sports illustrated is an unlikely place to report a sports story?it is an invented event, if you can call it an event, and people are talking about it simply because it has been thrust in our faces from unlikely places.
Sadly, it isn't an invented event. Collins IS gay. He IS an "active" player who wishes to continue playing. That is, in and of itself, a sports story because it has never happened in one of the four big American sports before. Much like the story of Jackie Robinson was a big story. And that was only baseball. There had already been black players in the NFL, hell there had been a black coach in the NFL already.
It was initially reported by a sporting news agency. Because it was a big deal, it got picked up by everyone.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.
Not to mention...you're moving goal posts again. A "Team Meeting" does not require it to be ABOUT an issue relating to the team team. If a coach gets all the team together and decides to ask them all to pray for some kid whose in the hospital with cancer, without referencing the team or sport, that's still him calling a "team meeting" and having a "team prayer" even though its not about a "team issue".
Or if you want to use your example...if Bill Bellicheck called the team into a meeting, had them take a knee, and then proceeded to talk about Kim Kardashians Vag and how fine her ass is and asked for their opinions on it....that's still a TEAM MEETING because it's a MEETING with the TEAM. Even though it doesn't have one thing to do with the team at all (unless the Patriots traded for Reggie Bush ).
A "Team Discussion" is one had with the team about ANYTHING, so long as it's a discussion with the team
A "Team Discussion of a team issue" would be a team discussion about something directly relating to the team.
One can have a conversation on a national level without it being a "national topic". If you wanted the TOPIC to also be of significant importance to the nation then you should've included an adjective prior to that as well. You didn't. If you meant for it to be included that's fine...then admit you messed up how you originally typed it in terms of your intent.
Where you place adjectives does matter. You place national prior to conversation, suggesting it needed to be a conversation held at a national level.
Now I assumed...because I figured you're not crazy...you didn't mean that in a literal sense that the ENTIRE NATION was having a discussion with itself or was being directly spoken to, ala a "team meeting". If that assumption is wrong and your previous statements in your "clarifying" posts is correct...then that's even more asinine and even more incorrect. If that assumption is correct...then you're basically agreeing with me.
Your issue is you are now...AFTER THE FACT...trying to claim that the TOPIC must be of national importance. Nothing in your statement or your wording of the statement suggests that. Nothing. No definition of it that I've seen. You see, I actually provided definitions...all you've done is go "No you're wrong, you read it wrong".
I'll ask again...give me something fact based or reference based to show me how your reasoning of it is correct.
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"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.