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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    It's only a big deal because it's a male, and the media has been looking for this for years...
    The point is that it is not a big deal.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    The point is that it is not a big deal.
    No, but it is to the media, and that's what counts when discussing national debates...
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    No, but it is to the media, and that's what counts when discussing national debates...
    Isn't that sad.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I was not aware that there was a culture in professional sports that was caustic towards heterosexuals. Wow, so a heterosexual athlete divulging their sexuality could lead to the end of their career or stigmatization in the sport they spent their whole life mastering? Your statement was just so edifying about the commensurate situations between heterosexuals and homosexuals in professional sports that I am truly grateful.
    I honestly don't think announcing one was gay is going to end anyone's career. I think of real recognizable players like Jordan, or Byrd, James. If they had said it, no one would care about their sexuality, only if they could play. Collins isn't in that group, so the reaction or lack of a reaction to his future career will be in spotlight by those that profess to know the inner workings of why or why not he continues his career. My guess is that if it continues, some on the right will say that it was because clubs were afraid of looking bad, or, that they gave him another shot as to appear open and tolerant (for whatever that means), similar to white guilt. Conversely, if he never gets another shot, there will be those on the left that will say that it is because the NBA is not as open and tolerant as one would have hoped for. You can't win from either spectrum. I imagine that in the end, like it is with the military, if your of sound character, it matters little what you prefer sexually. Although there are perhaps real legitimate concerns regarding locker rooms, and same sex, but they can be worked out if necessary. It boils down to if you can play, you stay, and it matters little that you happen to be gay! If you can't play and you're gay, it still matters little that you're gay, only that you suck! Pardon the pun.


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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Asante Samuel posed a good question. Why should athletes announce their sexuality? Should ESPN and SI do a spread every time a straight guy announces he likes girls? or are we gonna discriminate there?
    Every time they show a pro athlete with their girlfriend/#3/wife/fiance they are announcing it. The whole reason to come out is to not have to *hide* it anymore.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The person that decided to put him on the cover of the magazine made it a topic of national conversation.

    The White House Spokesman commenting on it made it a topic of national conversation.

    His coming out in and of itself did not, it is the medias and the governments reaction to it that did.

    it is an invented event, if you can call it an event, and people are talking about it simply because it has been thrust in our faces from unlikely places.
    Disagree, it would lead to discussion like this thread even if he only said it in a tweet or whatever. It's a big deal like it or not. If it wasn't, there would be dozens of pro athletes who have taken this step by now.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Every time they show a pro athlete with their girlfriend/#3/wife/fiance they are announcing it. The whole reason to come out is to not have to *hide* it anymore.
    this is the type of common sense people overlook because of lack of understanding facts and reality.
    this guy could have not did it in an interview and just started hung up pics of him and his boyfriend in his locker, showed people on his phone and showed yup to some events holding hands with a guy but guess what, then people would have just made his announcement for him lol. This is a way to halp avoid a lot of questions/speculation.

    very similar to when somebody announces they are sick with cancer or a family member is etc. Its so they arent asked every time the go to the water cooler at work or they are at a store etc etc.

    People act like he had tons of options.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I honestly don't think announcing one was gay is going to end anyone's career. I think of real recognizable players like Jordan, or Byrd, James. If they had said it, no one would care about their sexuality, only if they could play. Collins isn't in that group, so the reaction or lack of a reaction to his future career will be in spotlight by those that profess to know the inner workings of why or why not he continues his career. My guess is that if it continues, some on the right will say that it was because clubs were afraid of looking bad, or, that they gave him another shot as to appear open and tolerant (for whatever that means), similar to white guilt. Conversely, if he never gets another shot, there will be those on the left that will say that it is because the NBA is not as open and tolerant as one would have hoped for. You can't win from either spectruagine that in the end, like it is with the military, if your of sound character, it matters little what you prefer sexually. Although there are perhaps real legitimate concerns regarding locker rooms, and same sex, but they can be worked out if necessary. It boils down to if you can play, you stay, and it matters little that you happen to be gay! If you can't play and you're gay, it still matters little that you're gay, only that you suck! Pardon the pun.


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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I was not aware that there was a culture in professional sports that was caustic towards heterosexuals. Wow, so a heterosexual athlete divulging their sexuality could lead to the end of their career or stigmatization in the sport they spent their whole life mastering? Your statement was just so edifying about the commensurate situations between heterosexuals and homosexuals in professional sports that I am truly grateful.
    Being gay won't end a career either. This guys career is garbage regardless of who he has sex with. Do you really think LeBron James, who by most standards is having a good career, would be ran out of the sport if he were gay? **** no he wouldn't. Teams care about money and wins. Not sex. If you can produce, teams will want you.
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