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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    So the only way you'll be happy is if he goes back in time to 2001 and announces he is gay then? Or should he just remain quiet and leave it to the next guy to come out, assuming that the "next guy" has enough to lose for your liking?

    You're smart, Ikari. You should be able to see the absurdity of your position.
    I actually don't give a ****. I don't care if a player for my team is gay or not, only that they can win; not Grossman it up. There's nothing here for my liking and Collins is obviously free to do as he likes. It's just that the timing is a bit suspicious and it could (not saying it is) be an attempt to subvert the general lack of interest in his abilities by the league.

    In the end, I don't really care one way or the other as basketball is a pathetically stupid and boring sport that should be taken off the air and replaced by hockey. The NBA already has no credibility IMO and does everything it can to swing the results of games for popularity. So what's another publicity stunt in a long line of publicity stunts? But this entire brouhaha over him changing the face of sports is overblown and well overstated at this point since we do not know what, if any, impact it would have. Which has been my point this entire time for anyone who cares to actually read what I write instead of what they've imagined I've written.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    In other words, you still don't understand what a "role player" is.
    apparently not. who knew a "role player" was just some thug you sent in at the end of a game to foul people
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    apparently not. who knew a "role player" was just some thug you sent in at the end of a game to foul people
    Uh, some role players are used to stop easy layups, to force a player to make his shots from the foul line, to make other players think twice about driving the lane. That is one type of role player. That is not to say that this is what Collins is.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    no, the arguement is that this isn't as monumental an event as many would have us believe due to the circumstances surrounding his "coming out"
    It is monumental, though. Look at all of the support he has received from PLAYERS in different sports. Twitter alone has made it monumental. That's the thing people seem to be removing from the equation. Here we have an active player (who intends to be on a team next year) saying he is gay, and the rest of the sports world's reaction? Support. Former Packer Leroy Butler ended up losing $8,500 dollars for that support because a church cancelled a speaking event with him for saying "Congrats" to Collins on twitter.

    It's monumental because it confirms that pro athletes in the big four sports are ready for this. It ceases to be a speculation about whether or not they are ready, and becomes a verifiable fact. It's beneficial for all homosexuals who are worried about how they will be received if they come out, but especially homosexual athletes.

    Who gives a **** about his statline? Who cares if he isn't as great as Jackie Robinson? Those things are inconsequential. The human element is what matters. A player (by teammates) who was never an all-star, but has made a lot of friends all over the NBA during his career, comes out and is accepted by the players and his teammates. That's huge.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I actually don't give a ****. I don't care if a player for my team is gay or not, only that they can win; not Grossman it up. There's nothing here for my liking and Collins is obviously free to do as he likes. It's just that the timing is a bit suspicious and it could (not saying it is) be an attempt to subvert the general lack of interest in his abilities by the league.

    In the end, I don't really care one way or the other as basketball is a pathetically stupid and boring sport that should be taken off the air and replaced by hockey. The NBA already has no credibility IMO and does everything it can to swing the results of games for popularity. So what's another publicity stunt in a long line of publicity stunts? But this entire brouhaha over him changing the face of sports is overblown and well overstated at this point since we do not know what, if any, impact it would have. Which has been my point this entire time for anyone who cares to actually read what I write instead of what they've imagined I've written.
    You don't like basketball, you don't care about him being gay, so why are you worrying about his motives?
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But this entire brouhaha over him changing the face of sports is overblown and well overstated at this point since we do not know what, if any, impact it would have.
    Now there is some logic, since we don't know the impact, everyone should just be quiet.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why the **** would that matter? Is it only a good thing if he's put at risk? Would it help if some crazy anti-gay psychopath tried to kill him? Would that make it more palatable?
    Motive means a lot. People before didn't know his name and now he is onthe cover of magazines and he is the topic of conversation at the White House.

    Please try to stick to rational conversation. You psycho fantasies have no place in this discussion.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    I'll be honest that I'm a bit biased here. Watching Collins help lead my Hawks over the Magic when everyone said they couldn't has been one of the highlights of basketball for me over the last few years. I've actually had an argument over whether he should be in the NBA before he ever came out.
    If you are one of the owners of the team maybe you can fill us all in on why he was let go.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    apparently not. who knew a "role player" was just some thug you sent in at the end of a game to foul people
    Why do you think Collins, Johan Petro, Desagana Diop, Nazr Mohammad, Ronny Turiaf, Joel Anthony, Joel Pryzbilla, and Kurt Thomas have all managed to sustain consistent careers in the NBA into their 30s if they have no value.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If you are one of the owners of the team maybe you can fill us all in on why he was let go.
    Well by my Hawks I just wanted to indicate the team I rooted for without having to take time to explain it since its not obvious which team I root for based on my location.

    And they didn't resign him because they acquired Johan Petro last offseason from the Nets who fills the same role.
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