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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So I guess they'll have to paint pink lillies on the court.
    I'm thinking fuschia or avacado green.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    ALRIGHT...was waiting for this to come up.

    No....no RG3 did not CHIME in. What we have here is an issue of Scrotie McBoogerballs

    His comment was in a string of comments relating to a stupid story pushed by NFL.com in the past few days.

    While at the Draft Day party...in front of fans and not seemingly national media...RG3 was asked about what games were most memorable. He brought up the division clinching final game, and also the thanksgiving game. He made a reference to the chants of "RG3" at Texas Stadium when the crowd at Fedex started to chant it, and made a statement along the lines that during the Thanksgiving game the Redskins made "Dallas their home".

    An NFL.com writer heard about it and wrote a story on it...which got a TON of hate from Cowboy fans in the comments wishing injury on RG3 and people criticizing him for saying it or giving "bulletin board material".

    Here was the entire exchange on Twitter



    It just unfortunate that people happen to see the single quote and ran with it. I've seen people state that RG3 was talking about everything from Jason Collins to the dumbass Washington Councilman who wants the Skins to change their name to the "Redtails". However, in context, it's clearly in relation to the reaction to his quote about Dallas.
    OK, he didn't chime in. My bad. But his comment was universally true.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    He's not a professional basketball player now?
    He is in a technical sense. Then again, Kordell Stewart was technically a professional football player until 2012 and Terrell Owens still is technically one.

    It's being made out he's an active player. His team's season is over and he's not under contract for next year. The notion of "active" is a rather thin one. And I think has the potential for good but ALSO the potential for bad in terms of moving forward, because I believe it sets up the potential for people to start screaming about him being black balled for being gay if he's not picked up next year which I don't think will actually help matters if it happens.

    Again, I hope he inspires others to come out if they're in the closet and in pro sports. It would suck to live life that way. I'm happy he's able to be honest now and do think this will have some short term impact. But for all the desire to point out the "first" to break a barrier, I just don't think this is going to have the lasting and magnitude of impact some people think it will because of the way the American public generally is in terms of sports, causes, and stories. That doesn't mean I think he shouldn't have came out, or that I blame Sports Illustrated for running a story...but I also don't think this is going to by the guy whose essentially looked at as the homosexual equivilent of Jackie Robinson. If that ignorantly makes me a homophobe, then so be it. If it doesn't, then it speaks to your prejudice in this thread broadly suggesting everyone talking about his stats are just homophobes who dislike "faggots" getting "uppity"

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Gutsy? How about opportunistic posturing. Self-serving.

    He just went from an NBA no-name to a HUGE celebrity right before his playing days are over.
    Maybe, maybe not.

    I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I have unbiased, factual evidence to the contrary.

    And unless you know him personally AND he told you why he did it...you cannot know what his motives were. You can only guess.


    But even if his motives were less then honorable - who cares.

    He has probably helped other gays in sports - so good for him (whatever his motives).

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, he didn't chime in. My bad. But his comment was universally true.
    LOL. No problem. In the immortal words of TO..."That's my quarterback"...had to just make sure the record was set straight

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'd say it's a 50-50 tossup that he's back in an NBA uniform next season.
    Based on his declining minutes (he's averaging half the amount of time he played at the start of his career), his age, and the fact he was latched onto one of the worst franchises in the league this year I'd probably put it a little less than 50-50. But yeah, it's not unreasonable odds to think he'd be back next year or be at home REGARDLESS of him coming out. Which was my point earlier in terms of bringing up stats..it wasn't a clear likelihood that he'd be back even before he came out, so I'm not looking forward to the potential cries of "bigotry" if he's not signed and people lamenting how it's a sign America hasn't really moved forward.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you find it odd that people don't react based off you baseless assumption stated as fact?

    Man, a lot of things must appear "odd" to you.

    As to the actual issue...hard to say without knowing stuff about the woman. Not to mention the enormous complexity mentally that would go into a situation like his. By the sounds of his admission, it seemed he's been fighting with his feelings and views for some time. By the sounds of it once he came to an understanding of what he was feeling and who he was, he ended the relationship. That seems to be a rather reasonable and responsible way of handling it.
    And you believe that? Instead he didn't go to her first, NO, she found out just like everyone else did FROM THE NEWS!!

    So now who's making assumptions, Zyph? Don't shoot down my more astute assumption with your reckless one's and expect acquiescence from me.


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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    He did alter the landscape of sports. A landscape that had no openly gay players in it now has one openly gay player in it.
    Well...."alter the landscape of [the big four men's] sport."

    I can't lie, I chuckled seeing someone say Britney Griner is still the most talented gay basketball player. It was a good twitter zing.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    And you believe that? Instead he didn't go to her first, NO, she found out just like everyone else did FROM THE NEWS!!

    So now who's making assumptions, Zyph? Don't shoot down my more astute assumption with your reckless one's and expect acquiescence from me.

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    Notice where I'm saying it's hard to say without knowing the enormous complexity going on mentally in his situation? And how I used words like "seemed" to suggest that what I was saying was my guess based off his words? Yes, I made an assumption...and PRESENTED it and stated it in a way that made it clear it was an assumption.

    Now go back to your post where you state your assumption as if it's a fact. That's the issue. You want to make an assumption and a guess as to why he did it and provide evidence to back it up? Sure, go ahead. I may disagree with you as may others, but that's what we're all doing here...speculating. But if you ignorantly want to proclaim your assumption as some kind of actual truth and then muse how "odd" it is that people aren't reacting the same way to you, as if your view of it is somehow the unquestioned truth, then yeah...I'll call bull****.

    But thanks for the sad attempt to equate what I posted to what you posted...it was good for a laugh.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, we all know what Michael Jordan likes to do with his....

    It was better when we didn't.

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