Page 43 of 70 FirstFirst ... 33414243444553 ... LastLast
Results 421 to 430 of 699

Thread: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sports

  1. #421
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,846

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats just it there is no argument because what i said is true

    now along the way the many goal posts he tried to move to are in fact different but i dont care and its simply why i stuck to my original point the whole time.

    The NBA landscape has infact been impacted. Thats it nothing else.
    Well how about this. Was this impact a positive one or negative? Please provide your instrument for measuring the data that caused you to arrive at an answer to my question.

    You say it was impacted, well, in what way, please describe your results.


    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  2. #422
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,808

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Dude, drop this clown. He got me to for a few posts answering his insanity until I realized he was unarmed. He must be very young, or something, because he argues like my 11 year old. Trust me, anyone reading your exchange knows who won.


    Tim-
    "you" supporting him is not helping it makes it worse LOL Thanks!
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  3. #423
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,846

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    "you" supporting him is not helping it makes it worse LOL Thanks!
    Uh huh..


    So answer my question.


    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  4. #424
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,808

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Well how about this. Was this impact a positive one or negative? Please provide your instrument for measuring the data that caused you to arrive at an answer to my question.

    You say it was impacted, well, in what way, please describe your results.


    Tim-
    already done, read the post, there was no instrument needed nor is there (strawman) only the words of ex and current players some of the top players and the words of the coaches, owners and president of the league.

    The debate is "was there an impact, was there change" the answer is YES
    he tried to reframe this a lot, just like you are trying now but it failed.

    Try to understand for the impact not to be true all those people would have to be wrong a lying, who gets to determine if there was an impact or not if not them LOL their feelings make the impact true. Or maybe its conspiracy theory. Maybe the NBA planned 9/11, faked Obamas birth certificate and framed the boston bombers too. LOL
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  5. #425
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    07-16-14 @ 01:18 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    47,571

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Why? that hasnt been going on for like 20 years sadly.
    the tops stories are going to be what they think gets ratings
    So what? Does that mean I have to be accepting of that? That's exactly the point I'm making, is that the news leaves out a lot of actual news.

  6. #426
    Sage
    Erod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    North Texas
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:30 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,071

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What's especially annoying to me is that we have a "war" going on in Afghanistan, we have problems with NK, Iran, etc., children are abducted, missing, abused, killed, yet THIS is one of the top stories on the news? Really?
    Liberals are an incredibly needy me-me-me lot. Acceptance and equality isn't the real goal of the gay community as much as just making sure they're on stage 24/7. (Certainly, there is a more lowkey faction of the gay community, but they don't get the pub and press.)

    But you're spot on. The world is at a very critical juncture right now, and all hell is going to break loose in the not-to-distance future. We're in for some violent times, both within the U.S., and across the globe. And yet, the headlines are grabbed by gay NBA players, gun control, Kim Kardashian, and Lindsey Lohan.

  7. #427
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,846

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    already done, read the post, there was no instrument needed nor is there (strawman) only the words of ex and current players some of the top players and the words of the coaches, owners and president of the league.

    The debate is "was there an impact, was there change" the answer is YES
    he tried to reframe this a lot, just like you are trying now but it failed.

    Try to understand for the impact not to be true all those people would have to be wrong a lying, who gets to determine if there was an impact or not if not them LOL their feelings make the impact true. Or maybe its conspiracy theory. Maybe the NBA planned 9/11, faked Obamas birth certificate and framed the boston bombers too. LOL
    So there was an impact? A few vocal in support of Collins coming out, but what of the 100's perhaps 1000's that laughed and scoffed with friends privately? What about the few brave enough to vocalize that Collins coming out will have deleterious effects in locker rooms, hazing, teasing etc.. So my question is a legitimate one. Was the impact generally positive or negative, and how do you know? Additionally, you say there was change? What changed? Can you articulate any of what your saying to any degree of credibility using logic and sound reasoning?


    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  8. #428
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    07-16-14 @ 01:18 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    47,571

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Liberals are an incredibly needy me-me-me lot. Acceptance and equality isn't the real goal of the gay community as much as just making sure they're on stage 24/7. (Certainly, there is a more lowkey faction of the gay community, but they don't get the pub and press.)

    But you're spot on. The world is at a very critical juncture right now, and all hell is going to break loose in the not-to-distance future. We're in for some violent times, both within the U.S., and across the globe. And yet, the headlines are grabbed by gay NBA players, gun control, Kim Kardashian, and Lindsey Lohan.
    I just think about all of the things that are happening in the world right now and all of the problems that we are facing as a nation, and it disgusts me that a lot of headlines should actually be in tabloid magazines and NOT included in our nightly news, etc.

  9. #429
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,990

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The biggest myth perpetuated by homophobes is that gay men have any interest in looking at straight dicks in a changing room. It's the same kind of egotistical thinking that allows hormonally weak men to pretend that women want to see them naked in nonsexual circumstances.
    I don't think it's ego as much as it's just guys being...well...guys and being ignorantly short sighted to think people don't all think like they do.

    Go up to 100 straight males. Tell them they can change in the lockerroom with women in good physical shape. Ask them if they'll be taking peaks at all the tits.

    I'm going to guess that, if answered honestly, you'd get an overwhelming majority that would say "yes".

    So most likely it's less ego and more a guy going "Well...if I was in a lockerroom with athletic people of the sex I was attracted to, I'd look. So that means a gay guy in a locker room with athletic people of the sex he's attracted to will probalby look too".

    Now, there's probably some ego involved in thinking the guy would be looking SPECIFICALLY at the person...but the general notion isn't one of ego, but just simple projection.

  10. #430
    Sage
    jmotivator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,691

    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    I don't know about you guys and gals, but knowing what Jason Collins likes to do with his penis has really changed my opinion of him as a basketball player...

Page 43 of 70 FirstFirst ... 33414243444553 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •