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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If you are going to hold them up as shining examples of "altering the landscape of sport" ....yes.
    He did alter the landscape of sports. A landscape that had no openly gay players in it now has one openly gay player in it.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    I think it's slightly better than soccer.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    He did alter the landscape of sports. A landscape that had no openly gay players in it now has one openly gay player in it.
    So he's the equivalent of someone who posts "first" in threads on the internet?
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    You don't stick around for 12 seasons in the nba and make 33 million over your career by being a terrible player. His raw box score stats aren't there, but from an analytics standpoint he's actually a plus-minus monster due to his defense. No, he's not a superstar. He's not even good at scoring or rebounding. But he did make a difference on the court. I'd say it's a 50-50 tossup that he's back in an NBA uniform next season.
    no one in the NBA is a "terrible player" or else they wouldn't be there. he is only terrible in comparison to other NBA players.

    Ryan Sims: played Defensive Tackle in the NFL, avg $2 million per year, recorded 8.5 sacks and zero big plays. by all accounts one of the 100 worst players in the history of the NFL.

    by any measure of the game a "terrible" player and yet he managed to hang around for 11 years.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So he's the equivalent of someone who posts "first" in threads on the internet?
    bazinga......
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.)The people in the locker rooms are doing exactly as I said they will. Some will make noise, others will accept, others won't care. Those fractions will change in time, regardless of this dude or not, and more and more will likely at least start to not care, others learning to accept, and we'd likely see a decline in time over those making noise. That's it.

    2.)There was no emotion.
    3.)The specific thing I'm pointing to is that while you may want this to be something ground breaking and you want it to be this monumental event; it's not. It's media hype and overplay.
    4.) The landscape of sports IS NOT going to change, well not because of this one dude anyway.
    5.) It will do exactly as I said above as that was the natural progression anyway.
    6.) You want it to be something it's not.
    7.) You're the one saying it's going to be different, that we're changing the landscape.
    8.) But there will be no change in slope of the derivative function, no discontinuity in attitude or acceptance; just the standard normal trend.
    1.) so there will be a change based on this
    2.) well i certainly can not tell you how you feel but your post doesnt seem to support that but if you say so i got nothing else to go on
    3.) "I" dont want it to be anything more than what i think it is and that is possible the first openly gay pro-athlete and thats awesome.
    And as far as what i think/want it to be and what you think/want it to be that just your opinion.
    4.) that remains to be seen.
    5.) we will never know this now since this happened, its already changed and impacted, we could debate how much and to what to what degree though.

    I think its awesome, beyond that, I dont know what it is. Id love to know how you come to any of these made up conclusions lol

    YOU want me to think that so YOU can tell me its not something LOL
    6.) wrong again "I" havent said much about me that even supports what you claim LOL ive laid out the reality of peoples reaction. Try again and try to talk about things actually being discussed.
    7.) wrong again i said it has the potential and that many people think it will, again please keep up
    8.) again just your opinion and you dont possible know that, no one can.

    so again what are you trying to sell me on? is there some facts that im missing?

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    He's not a professional basketball player now?



    Hopefully. That's why teh homophobes come out screeching about how horrible of a player he is. They are hoping to dissuade other players from being inspired by him because, well golly gosh darn, we can't have them pesky faggots gettin' uppity and thinking they are people now.
    I wonder how his female "basketball" girl friend feels about his courage? I wonder if female basketball's landscape will be altered in any way? Oh crap, they're all gay anyway, aren't they? I guess all sports will be altered by this scum bags courage. A big percentage of female basketball players, and golf I might add are already out and proud, why should we be celebrating this douche bags outing? The love people are showing this guy for his courage is amazing? Where's all of our female members? I wonder what their opinions are of what he did to this poor woman, Moos?


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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    because people noted the perceived impact it would have on his career
    It's just a phenomenally strange coincidence then that those people were virulently anti-gay, many of whom don't give a **** about basketball at all until this topic arose, then.


    If you wanted to out them as just homophobic then would the best route be proving that he did have a good career?
    They've already out themselves as homophobic. I'm merely noting they they happen to be the peopel who have taken this opportunity to criticize his career.

    I mean, that way you could actually show they were wrong about their assessment of it, as opposed to simply going "homophobia" as if it were some PC totem of doom
    Why would I be interested in disproving their assessment of his career? Their perception about the quality of his career has absolutely no relevancy to his coming out of the closet.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    I guess all sports will be altered by this scum bags courage.
    There's that homophobia.
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