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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Why else would someone criticize his playing career in this context?
    because he is being held up as something he is not. there is nothing "landscape of sports altering" about an aging, mediocre at best player at the end of his career "coming out". Does anyone seriously believe that this is going to encourage young guys just starting out to "come out"?
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Why else would someone criticize his playing career in this context?

    Who cares if he played great or he played ****ty? What the **** does it matter when the actual subject is that he is a professional athlete (a fact unaffected by the perceptions of the quality of his career) who has come out (also a fact where his statlines are irrelevant).

    The only reason to bring up his stat line in this context is to denigrate him in some way. Why would people do that in this context? Look at who is doing it and the answer becomes clear. Lo and behold, the critics of Collins who have suddenly become basketball experts have almost universally expressed some extremely homophobic comments in the past.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    I just happen to really hate basketball in general.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    he was a terrible player.
    So you want your faggot players to be superstars?
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    So you want your faggot players to be superstars?
    If you are going to hold them up as shining examples of "altering the landscape of sport" ....yes.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    because he is being held up as something he is not.
    He's not a professional basketball player now?

    Does anyone seriously believe that this is going to encourage young guys just starting out to "come out"?
    Hopefully. That's why teh homophobes come out screeching about how horrible of a player he is. They are hoping to dissuade other players from being inspired by him because, well golly gosh darn, we can't have them pesky faggots gettin' uppity and thinking they are people now.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    he was a terrible player. the fact that he is gay is irrelevent.

    In other headline-making, earth shattering, landscape of sport altering news... NASCAR pit crew tire changer Christmas Abbott comes out and admits she is female
    You don't stick around for 12 seasons in the nba and make 33 million over your career by being a terrible player. His raw box score stats aren't there, but from an analytics standpoint he's actually a plus-minus monster due to his defense. No, he's not a superstar. He's not even good at scoring or rebounding. But he did make a difference on the court. I'd say it's a 50-50 tossup that he's back in an NBA uniform next season.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why else would someone criticize his playing career in this context?
    because people noted the perceived impact it would have on his career


    The only reason to bring up his stat line in this context is to denigrate him in some way. Why would people do that in this context?
    If you wanted to out them as just homophobic then would the best route be proving that he did have a good career? I mean, that way you could actually show they were wrong about their assessment of it, as opposed to simply going "homophobia" as if it were some PC totem of doom
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    4.) i agree to a point but some people simply dont care about their bigotry
    No doubt this is true but, then there are those who you might think are bigoted when they actually they could care less what you do under the sheets [so to speak]

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So you want your faggot players to be superstars?
    Particularly if they play for the Bears or Cubs. I don't want no chumps on my team, straight or gay!
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