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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what's there to diminish? it's not like he took some huge risk by doing this.
    Where's the risk? He wasn't fired on the spot and disavowed by his team and the NBA as he would have been 20 years ago. The only publically traded statements in the press have been that he is brave and congratualating him for coming out. AFAIK there's been no talk of cutting him or marginalizing him.

    Not being the team or the one of the league's top players this can only work to his advantage - professionally speaking at least. He's still going to be the butt of locker room jokes (pun intended).

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, like only conservative dudes fap to lesbian porn
    No, not only conservatives. But the vast majority complain about how the act of homosexuality is a sin, yet then masterbate to it. Just saying.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    no, it showed the stupidity of your post
    Uh, it is pretty stupid to call it my post....when it wasn't.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.)I don't really see an impact.
    2.)This isn't like Jackie Robinson, and to me all the hoopla over this makes it seem that some want to turn it into such.
    3.) He's gay, who cares?
    4.)Does he want a cookie?
    5.)Maybe there will be some locker room brouhaha, but even that will settle down.
    6.)If you're good, it's not going to matter gay or straight because teams want the W, and owners want the $.
    7.) There wasn't really anything to "break" here other than random people's attitudes that being gay is icky.

    8.)It's great that we live in an era where an athlete can come out and say he's gay without being lynched, but that also is not attributable to Collins.
    9.)So....what's the impact? What's the ground breaking, earth shattering,
    10.) we have never before seen an example of civil rights in this magnitude, impact?
    11.)I'm sorry to say, but in the grand scheme of things, it's negligible.
    1.)well you are free to feel that way many disagree.
    2.) I agree its not EQUAL on all levels to JR nor is he the talent JR was.
    3.) as proven by media, this thread, his teammate lots of people. This would also be proven by the many interviews, articles, books, interviews and documentaries about form players talking about how they never had the courage to come out because of the amount of fear they had for thier jobs and the amount of bigotry they encountered in their opinions.
    4.) dont think he wants a cookie lol
    5.) you HOPE thats all it is and since he is the first thats exactly where the impact will be
    6.) really? history proves that not consistent and remind me how many players, owners and even teammates shunned magic for AIDs and RUMORS of him being gay. This is simply not always the case but in 2013 its more likely.
    7.) which would change the landscape since professional sports definitely has a stereotypical gay is ick factor to it. Again you have already mentioned ways the landscape will be changed.
    8.) attributable? no, but could he be the first to prove it and change the landscape and allow others to come out even before the play in the NBA, yes its "possible"
    9.) see above we already have 3 answers identified,2 indirectly by you
    10.) IMO of course but i personally am still excited anytime equality comes to the surface.
    11.) you are free to this opinion but many disagree

    personally i think its awesome, but hey thats just me, i wish it would create a domino effect and cause every gay person in pro sports to come out, of course it wont but it be awesome if it did.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I agree with you but also note that people can do what they know is wrong and still know it's wrong. Just because people sin doesn't negate that it is a sin (in those people's minds).
    Yes, we like to call that hypocrisy. Just saying.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    In the 200203 NBA season Collins took over the starting center role for the Nets and helped the franchise back to the NBA Finals. Prior to the 200405 season, he signed a $25 million contract extension with New Jersey for five more years.

    Some "no" career.
    Professional athletes make a ton of money but that doesn't mean he wasn't a crappy player.

    If coming out did anything, it likely helped his career. He almost certainly wouldn't have been resigned otherwise. At the very least someone may kick the tires and offer Collins league minimum for the novelty and publicity.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what's there to diminish? it's not like he took some huge risk by doing this.
    Non sequitur, you are trying to diminish his past and current effort.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, not only conservatives. But the vast majority complain about how the act of homosexuality is a sin, yet then masterbate to it. Just saying.
    I assume you can provide some empirical data to support your claims that 1. the vast majority of conservatives complain about homosexuality 2. the vast majority of conservatives masturbate to lesbian porn 3. those who complain about homosexuality are the same ones who masturbate to lesbian porn
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I assume you can provide some empirical data to support your claims that 1. the vast majority of conservatives complain about homosexuality 2. the vast majority of conservatives masturbate to lesbian porn 3. those who complain about homosexuality are the same ones who masturbate to lesbian porn
    You're kidding right? Are you seriously saying the majority of conservatives do NOT believe the act of homosexulaty is a sin? I'll answer your others when you answer this question, because if you are seriously claiming that, then you are just being obtuse.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Professional athletes make a ton of money but that doesn't mean he wasn't a crappy player.
    Everyone keeps making this argument, and I keep asking how is that relevant? He already admitted to being a role player, but i makes no difference since the point is he has come out.

    If coming out did anything, it likely helped his career. He almost certainly wouldn't have been resigned otherwise. At the very least someone may kick the tires and offer Collins league minimum for the novelty and publicity.
    Has he been re-signed? Who cares? This is just another cynical claim that he did for the money.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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