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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you mean being unwilling to do business with someone in terms of hiring, service, etc.
    Again, if you are going to stay on Collins, I haven't heard of any "coercion". If you are going back to the reasons for the Civil rights act, Equal pay, Employment Non-Discrimination act.....there is plenty of case law to show WHY they evolved.



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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Y! SPORTS




    Why NBA center Jason Collins is coming out now
    NBA player Jason Collins says he is gay - The Magazine - SI.com




    awesome! Many people arent so lucky

    Kobe Bryant, Bill Clinton, David Stern and others support Jason Collins
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-bill-clinton-david-stern-others-support-163319934.html










    Very brave, VERY BRAVE

    glad to see he has some support too!
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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

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    opinion noted and not shared. I consider such people to be those who had " hall of fame" or a Pro bowl or All star career. productive means what it says
    Productive-Producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.

    He doesn't seem productive to me.

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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Productive-Producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.

    He doesn't seem productive to me.
    we will agree to disagree. non productive NBA careers are generally those who are cut in camp



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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    opinion noted and not shared. I consider such people to be those who had " hall of fame" or a Pro bowl or All star career. productive means what it says
    if you're reducing the phrase 'productive nba career' to something that is quite common among nfl players, like making it to the nba, then the distinction becomes rather meaningless. Also, someone having a standout career isn't the same thing as the hall of fame

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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we will agree to disagree. non productive NBA careers are generally those who are cut in camp
    You do have to love it though. Everyone is a sports analyst on the internet. That's why I always say:

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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we will agree to disagree. non productive NBA careers are generally those who are cut in camp
    He averaged over twenty minutes a game through his career and didn't even get over four points and four rebounds while barely getting half a block a game. All the while he missed almost sixty percent of his shots. There is nothing productive about that. He sucked.

    Sure he played a long time, but a lot of horrible players happen to have long careers. That doesn't make them productive, but someone that happens to continue to get work.. Is a lawyer productive when they can't win a case to save their lives but happen to continue to get clients? No. Why is it different for NBA players?
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    Re: Jason Colly, altering the landscape of sports

    It was largely thanks to Collins that the Hawks were able to beat the Magic in 2011 so easily with Collins doing great work on Dwight Howard. I'll always have good memories of him for that.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

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    Brave? Not in today's America. We have grown up.
    id like to believe that but its simply not true yet and many of his players and fellow NBA personal along with ex-players disagree with you.
    Heck there are ex-players of many leagues that simply disagree.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    id like to believe that but its simply not true yet and many of his players and fellow NBA personal along with ex-players disagree with you.
    Heck there are ex-players of many leagues that simply disagree.
    There's always gonna be haters, but I like to think the majority of the country is cool with it. You know, being a millennial it's crazy how different societies overall view on LGBT people has changed so much just in my short lifetime. What I'm saying is people have a point when they say this has moved quickly, at least from my POV. I think the rest of the sports community will follow eventually.
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