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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Have you shown how that is relevant to his coming out?
    I have already commented on men coming out in sports in this thread. You can look back in the thread if you are interested.

    As for Jason Collins, he isn't even on a team nor will he probably get another job in the NBA. I highly doubt anything will change because of this.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have already commented on men coming out in sports in this thread. You can look back in the thread if you are interested.

    As for Jason Collins, he isn't even on a team nor will he probably get another job again in the NBA. I highly doubt anything will change because of this.
    So you have not shown how his stats are significant or relevant to his coming out.

    As I said before, you guys have this need to denigrate a person to make their actions insignificant.
    Hint: Lots of people are talking about this on the national level, it all contributes to acceptance and the ending of discrimination.

    Go ahead, keep resisting...."libertarian".
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    The bottom line is that if the players stats are good enough to be on the team, and other than his own announcement he keeps his sexuality to himself, I don't really see the problem here....Is there some question before playing for a team sport that asks what the nature of a players sexuality is?

    So he's gay.....So what? I'm straight, I don't go around announcing it....
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So you have not shown how his stats are significant or relevant to his coming out.
    His worth as a player has a direct correlation on the amount of change his coming out will cause. As a mediocre player that is a free agent the best you will get from this is the end of his career.

    As I said before, you guys have this need to denigrate a person to make their actions insignificant.
    Hint: Lots of people are talking about this on the national level, it all contributes to acceptance and the ending of discrimination.

    Go ahead, keep resisting...."libertarian".
    I have no problem with private businesses deciding on who they desire to do business with on a daily basis. If they don't want to hire gay basketball players I really couldn't give a damn.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    His worth as a player has a direct correlation on the amount of change his coming out will cause.
    So social change is dependent upon the celebrity value of the person? Was Rosa Parks big before she refused to go to the back of the bus?

    As a mediocre player that is a free agent the best you will get from this is the end of his career.
    There goes that "career" thing again, how is this "ending" of his NBA career significant to his effect on social change due to his coming out? I just don't get how you can predict this.



    I have no problem with private businesses deciding on who they desire to do business with on a daily basis. If they don't want to hire gay basketball players I really couldn't give a damn.
    I see, you are one of those that believes that discrimination based on sexual orientation is OK, you are apathetic on the practice.
    That explains a lot.

    This wasn't even a matter I brought up, it is funny that you did. I was digging to see just how socially liberal you were, not your free market views.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So social change is dependent upon the celebrity value of the person? Was Rosa Parks big before she refused to go to the back of the bus?

    There goes that "career" thing again, how is this "ending" of his NBA career significant to his effect on social change due to his coming out? I just don't get how you can predict this.
    What is the goal here exactly?


    I see, you are one of those that believes that discrimination based on sexual orientation is OK, you are apathetic on the practice.
    That explains a lot.
    I believe a private business has the right to discriminate on whoever they damn well please. Good enough for you?

    This wasn't even a matter I brought up, it is funny that you did. I was digging to see just how socially liberal you were, not your free market views.
    What I said should answer your question well enough.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is the goal here exactly?




    I believe a private business has the right to discriminate on whoever they damn well please. Good enough for you?



    What I said should answer your question well enough.


    Perhaps we need to reactivate some old "discriminations" so that some people would experience the shoe being on the other foot.................

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Perhaps we need to reactivate some old "discriminations" so that some people would experience the shoe being on the other foot.................

    <----white straight American male and too short for the NBA.

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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is the goal here exactly?
    Uh, already stated, the broader acceptance of homosexuality in society.




    I believe a private business has the right to discriminate on whoever they damn well please. Good enough for you?
    I got that the first time you said it, you are in favor of discrimination based on sexual orientation.



    What I said should answer your question well enough.
    Indeed, it does and as I said, it explains a lot of other things.
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    Re: Jason Collins (NBA Center) announces that he is gay, altering the landscape of sp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    <----white straight American male and too short for the NBA.


    I was thinking less of you and more of a certain florist becoming a meal on wheels for a local zoo............I'd venture to guess that would make a few people sit up and take notice..................

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