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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Who care HOW they kill people? Our pathetic president tells the world it's OK to kill as many as they want as long as it's not done with chemicals. What a tragedy Obammy is.
    Couldn't agree more.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Where were you under Bush?
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    That the Assad regime is brutal is not a surprise. Nevertheless, that does not mean that the U.S. should intervene in Syria's civil war. Unless there is a compelling national interest, the U.S. should refrain from getting involved.

    First, the anti-Assad elements have not offered any credible indications that they would initiate a tolerant political system, much less be able to maintain stability. Second, they have offered no credible assurances that they would embrace policies more compatible with U.S. interests (reduced cooperation with Iran, ending assistance to Hezbollah and Hamas, concluding peace with Israel, etc.).

    Right now, one is witnessing a conflict in which the Sunni majority is seeking to topple the Alawite minority's hold on power. One cannot automatically draw the conclusion that a "democratic" revolution is underway. Indeed, some of the elements involved with the anti-Assad forces would argue against the idea of a democratic nature. Like most ethnic conflicts, the tactics employed by both sides are brutal, there's little inhibition about respecting the welfare of civilians, and the result is high casualties. Like most ethnic conflicts, there's also a zero-sum mentality held by both parties, neither of which is seriously interested in compromising on a peaceful path forward. Each side believes there is no mutually beneficial solution and that one can only gain at the expense of another. Each wants a total victory.

    The experience in Libya and difficulties in Afghanistan and Iraq both argue for caution. Unpopular as it might be, unless there is a strong U.S. interest involved--and at present there isn't--the U.S. should refrain from getting embroiled in Syria's civil war. It should provide humanitarian aid and help Turkey deal with the refugee issue. If Syria begins to use chemical weapons against civilians as opposed to combatants, then an air strike against Syria's known chemical weapons facilities might make sense to take those weapons off the table. At this time, the limited evidence available does not reveal that the chemical weapons were deployed against civilians.
    hi don ,

    syria is already a national interest according to US government

    the maps and the types of administration of the many countries including Turkey located in ME should change according to the great middle east project which was organized and planned to control the middle east and asia


    so US government'S main interest has been to manipulate the political arena in the middle eastern countries in order to change their socio politic structure since 9 / 11

    so the arabian spring is the fruit of this process
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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JH. Do you think it is possible that the Rebels may have got a small quantity of chemical weapons thru their rebellion while killing and taking out Assads Troops? Considering these Chemical Weapons are stored and located in many places throughout Syria?

    Is it possible that Assads officers may have used some but was not given an Order by Assad? What about those that were being overran by Al Nusra and the FSA and were fighting a stand your ground situation.....fight or die?
    Anything is possible, but the burden of proof is on Asad since they're his weapons, and BHO is the one who announced a "red line."

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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    It's easy to be brave with other peoples lives.

    I was always amused hearing people talk about how "cowardly" the enemy was for using IED's. I wonder how many of them would have went up against a 15 deep convoy of uparmored trucks carrying 50 cals, grenade launchers, and other automatic weapons -- armed with nothing but their Soviet era rifles.

    No, we were "bravely" patrolling the streets with the comfort of our total air superiority. Our advantage is/was overwhelming in every way, to the point where it's silly to even try to make a comparison. So excuse me when I laugh at people who talk about how brave soldiers are for going to Iraq or Afghanistan, and how cowardly the enemy is. I see things clearly, free from the chains of bull**** propaganda. I have no vested interest either way, I'm not Muslim and I have no kind of ties to anywhere in that region. I'm just not a total brainwashed tool like some of the people who actually believe that they were "fighting for freedom."
    My cowardice reference was not about the enemy. I respect fighting men (and women), even the enemy.
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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Like how we helped the Afghans in the 80s who later turned against us?
    That would not have happened had we not abandoned Afghanistan. We didn't need to do much, but a little engagement would have precluded a large problem. Like now.
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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're missing the point. I'm not asking for links. I'm asking couldn't we have done the same with Iraq?
    What? Draw a "red line", then when it's crossed, wuss out and do nothing? We could have but didn't....
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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Who care HOW they kill people? Our pathetic president tells the world it's OK to kill as many as they want as long as it's not done with chemicals. What a tragedy Obammy is.
    How's that any different than previous? Do we run around trying to right all the world's problems? Because we seem to have left out the continent of Africa if so. The real lesson here, what Obama is pushing and what Bush pushed and what those before him pushes is that it is OK to kill as many people as you want, so long as you do not conflict with US interest.
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    Re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    It is manslaughter. Why do Statists always want to sanitize reality?
    Manslaughter is purely accidental. Collateral damage is a calculation that more are helped than harmed.
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