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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, but it is.
    No it isn't. Try again.

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No it isn't. Try again.
    Um...DUH!!!

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    And couldn't I have found this concerning Iraq and any number of things later shown wrong? Do you deny this?

    (BTW, that's the same question I asked earlier and your link doesn't answer it.)

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And couldn't I have found this concerning Iraq and any number of things later shown wrong? Do you deny this?

    (BTW, that's the same question I asked earlier and your link doesn't answer it.)
    Of course Syria has chemical weapons....

    “But, as current events attest, we must stay vigilant. The threat of chemical weapons persists, and eight States remain outside the Convention. Until the Convention is universal and the last stockpiles have been destroyed, our debt to the victims of chemical warfare will remain unpaid.”

    Earlier this month, Mr. Ban appealed to the 188 States Parties to the Convention to do all in their power to bring on board the eight nations that still have not signed on – Angola, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Egypt, Israel, Myanmar, Somalia, South Sudan, and Syria.

    United Nations News Centre - Syria: Ban renews call for on-site access for chemical weapons probe team
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did Obama say that "the use of any chemical weapons in Syria would change the calculus", or did he not?

    What do you think he meant by that?

    Empty threat?
    Strong letter?
    ....
    Nothing?

    Now, all the sudden it's about the amount used?

    Obama is feckless, and the world knows it.
    Id rather us be cautious. You know last time we did military actions with "chemical weapons" didnt go out to well now did it?


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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Gordon: What have your investigations revealed about the level of commitment and investment in Bio-warfare programs by the Syrian military establishment?

    Dekker: Contrary to how the US State Department and other agencies tend to downplay the sophistication of the Syrian biological and nuclear programs, they are very advanced. Syria has always had the most advanced chemical weapons program in the Middle East. The US and other western agencies have in a sense been distracted by this, but their biological programs and the “concept of use” are robust. Syria’s biological weapons capability today is closely tied to the former and current Soviet and Russian programs respectively, the DPRK, Iran and the former Iraq regime. A major concern is their strategic concept of use - which has gone from one of ‘special weapons’ to incorporation into their ‘conventional arsenal.’ That is a significant shift and one that seems to have eluded the US. The Syrians run their biological programs out of the Syrian Scientific Research Council (SSRC) in Damascus. They have separate wings for separate pathogens. They also have a number of programs running in Aleppo. The Syrians are 100% committed to deniable operations as their modus operandi. Biological weapons, particularly those which might occur naturally, are the ultimate in deniability, for example, their cryptosporidium program for force reduction. The Wednesday Report noted a few years ago that in terms of the Syrian anthrax program, Syria has extensive expertise in the industrial cultivation of germs and viruses for the civilian production of anthrax (and smallpox) vaccines. It also noted that Russian experts, contracted by Syria, are apparently helping them to cultivate a highly virulent anthrax germ for installation in missile warheads. Their pharmaceutical infrastructure is fully integrated with their defense structure. Syrians cannot reach parity with US and Israeli conventional weapons. However, they view their bio-chemical arsenal as part of a normal weapons program. This is a huge shift in thinking by the Syrian military. It means they condone the use of biological pathogens as 'offensive' weapons. NATO and the United States should be very concerned about that re-designation.

    Syria's Bio-Warfare Threat: an interview with Dr. Jill Dekker > Jerry Gordon
    Now come on people....This isn't Iraq, nor is it any contrived chem threat...This is a known player in weaponized chem/bio agents. And frankly, I find it highly dangerous, and suspicious that seemingly intelligent people would deny that they even have such weapons....It is silliness, and those trying to deny it are being plain foolish.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Id rather us be cautious. You know last time we did military actions with "chemical weapons" didnt go out to well now did it?
    Hopefully we learned our lesson and don't let them leave the country we are going into...But, I stand by the fact that I am NOT talking about invading anyone. I don't want American troops going in...But to compare Syria to Iraq under Saddam is not even serious discussion.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hopefully we learned our lesson and don't let them leave the country we are going into...But, I stand by the fact that I am NOT talking about invading anyone. I don't want American troops going in...But to compare Syria to Iraq under Saddam is not even serious discussion.
    Not saying its similar im saying invading on those grounds is not a smart move.


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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hopefully we learned our lesson and don't let them leave the country we are going into...But, I stand by the fact that I am NOT talking about invading anyone. I don't want American troops going in...But to compare Syria to Iraq under Saddam is not even serious discussion.
    Then what are you talking about? You guys were talking earlier in the thread about how "Obama won't back up his tough words...that's why nobody takes us seriously."

    So how do you want him to back it up if not with force?


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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hopefully we learned our lesson and don't let them leave the country we are going into...But, I stand by the fact that I am NOT talking about invading anyone. I don't want American troops going in...But to compare Syria to Iraq under Saddam is not even serious discussion.
    Let's see... the contention seems to be that Iraq must have had WMD, because we said so. When we invaded, we didn't find any. Therefore, he must have sent them to Syria to get rid of them.

    In other words, faced with an invasion by the biggest military on the planet, he sent his most devastating weapons to a neighboring nation to get rid of them.

    Somehow, I just don't see the logic of all that.
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