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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Still better than actually getting involved....
    Why was it ok with Libya? Obama shouldn't have let his big mouth write checks he had no intention of cashing. All he did, is make America look weak to enemies in the region as well as allies.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On the other hand supplying the Muslim Brotherhood with billions in dollars and arms could also make Israel feel isolated.
    Giving money to Egypt to the tune of around 2 billion a year for military and economic aid was part of the Camp David Accords during President Carter to bring peace between Israel and Egypt.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why was it ok with Libya? Obama shouldn't have let his big mouth write checks he had no intention of cashing. All he did, is make America look weak to enemies in the region as well as allies.
    In a way I applaud President Obama for taking his time here. From what I read around 20% of those fighting the Aasad regime have AQ connections vs. Aasad which is backed by Iran. Syria could very well be a lose, lose situation regardless what we do and even if we do nothing. It could boil down to do we want an Iranian back Aasad or a AQ backed new government that disposes Aasad. Not very good choices.

    But I do agree, the perception is there throughout the Middle East that once that red line was crossed, the U.S. would retaliate. Most hoped for a no fly zone while others were looking for something akin to Desert Storm.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Giving money to Egypt to the tune of around 2 billion a year for military and economic aid was part of the Camp David Accords during President Carter to bring peace between Israel and Egypt.
    Back then, Mubarak was considered an ally of ours, and a protector of Israel. Times and regimes change. How does the Muslim Brotherhood feel about Israel?

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Back then, Mubarak was considered an ally of ours, and a protector of Israel. Times and regimes change. How does the Muslim Brotherhood feel about Israel?
    Let's say, from what I have read, they are not at all happy with Israel and would like to snuff her out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Let's say, from what I have read, they are not at all happy with Israel and would like to snuff her out.
    That's what I thought, too. Are we still giving them money we have to borrow to give to them? The outline is getting blurry on who are our friends these days. No wonder Israel is getting nervous....

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    That's what I thought, too. Are we still giving them money we have to borrow to give to them? The outline is getting blurry on who are our friends these days. No wonder Israel is getting nervous....
    A while back there was a discussion on TV about cutting off the aid to Egypt because of the Muslim Brotherhood. One of the reasons given for not doing so was it was part of the Camp David Accord and if the aid was cut, it would be a violation of the treaty. So if that discussion was correct, then that is the reason. Yes friends and enemies change over time. Then our old enemies become our friends and our old friends become our enemies. Plenty of examples, think Japan and Germany WWII, the USSR our ally then the cold war and roles were reversed. Vietnam is becoming a fairly good friend now.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    A while back there was a discussion on TV about cutting off the aid to Egypt because of the Muslim Brotherhood. One of the reasons given for not doing so was it was part of the Camp David Accord and if the aid was cut, it would be a violation of the treaty. So if that discussion was correct, then that is the reason. Yes friends and enemies change over time. Then our old enemies become our friends and our old friends become our enemies. Plenty of examples, think Japan and Germany WWII, the USSR our ally then the cold war and roles were reversed. Vietnam is becoming a fairly good friend now.
    How short-sighted of the Treaty writers, who should have recognized that nothing ever stays the same, as you cited above! So, in theory, we could be attacked by someone with whom we have a Treaty, and our hands would be tied by a piece of paper?

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    How short-sighted of the Treaty writers, who should have recognized that nothing ever stays the same, as you cited above! So, in theory, we could be attacked by someone with whom we have a Treaty, and our hands would be tied by a piece of paper?
    It has happened hundreds of times in history. The attack --ahem-- invalidates the treaty.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It has happened hundreds of times in history. The attack --ahem-- invalidates the treaty.
    It's comforting to know there are some loopholes! I was beginning to show signs of utter despair ...

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