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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's what I thought.

    So, let's stay out, not draw any more red lines.
    BHO already declared the red line. It does no one good when the POTUS tucks his tail between his legs and slinks away after talking tough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, Jack.

    Would you know which of the two factions, Sunni or Shia, might be considered the most strict in their religious beliefs, ie, more modern vs old school? If there is not much difference, what is the cause of the uprising, other than dislike of the other party? They all had to start from one source, so to speak.
    The split goes back 1400 years so I don't think I can sum it up here. Both sides have more tolerant and less tolerant wings. Good evening, Polgara.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    BHO already declared the red line. It does no one good when the POTUS tucks his tail between his legs and slinks away after talking tough.
    I wish he had thought of that before talking tough.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Read more and video @: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

    Chemical weapons may have been used in Syria but on a small scale. Intelligence is not 100% sure but it seems they may have been used but dont know how they were "used".

    Currently the evidence that the Syrian gov used chemical weapons is inconclusive at best. (Why would Assad use chemical weapons? - The Week)

    Jean-Pascal Zanders of the European Institute of Security Studies in Paris maintains that images circulated on the internet of the alleged attacks do not suggest a nerve gas like sarin. "There are no convulsions or dead bodies," he says, "only single patients being treated in crowded emergency rooms. I'd expect clusters of casualties, and deaths." Moreover, no one seems to have been exposed to nerve agents due to handling victims.

    Only one in a series of four such videos "shows any real poisoning symptoms", says Richard Guthrie, an independent CW expert
    , formally at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

    Source: Threatwatch: Did Syria use chemical weapons or not? - 26 April 2013 - New Scientist
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Currently the evidence that the Syrian gov used chemical weapons is inconclusive at best. (Why would Assad use chemical weapons? - The Week)

    Jean-Pascal Zanders of the European Institute of Security Studies in Paris maintains that images circulated on the internet of the alleged attacks do not suggest a nerve gas like sarin. "There are no convulsions or dead bodies," he says, "only single patients being treated in crowded emergency rooms. I'd expect clusters of casualties, and deaths." Moreover, no one seems to have been exposed to nerve agents due to handling victims.

    Only one in a series of four such videos "shows any real poisoning symptoms", says Richard Guthrie, an independent CW expert
    , formally at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

    Source: Threatwatch: Did Syria use chemical weapons or not? - 26 April 2013 - New Scientist
    Did Obama say that "the use of any chemical weapons in Syria would change the calculus", or did he not?

    What do you think he meant by that?

    Empty threat?
    Strong letter?
    ....
    Nothing?

    Now, all the sudden it's about the amount used?

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did Obama say that "the use of any chemical weapons in Syria would change the calculus", or did he not?

    What do you think he meant by that?

    Empty threat?
    Strong letter?
    ....
    Nothing?

    Now, all the sudden it's about the amount used?

    Obama is feckless, and the world knows it.
    Still better than actually getting involved....
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Still better than actually getting involved....
    We don't need to be involved. We can provide help without getting in. Main thing is that we want whoever wins to be at least a little bit grateful.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We don't need to be involved. We can provide help without getting in. Main thing is that we want whoever wins to be at least a little bit grateful.
    Regardless who wins, if we get involved, we will be classed by the zealots as an enemy, and invite more 9/11 type incidents. Even the winner is not going to want their people to think they are grateful to us. They have too many religious zealots against anyone who isn't of their faith.

    We need a clear reason to be involved, else stay out.

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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We don't need to be involved. We can provide help without getting in. Main thing is that we want whoever wins to be at least a little bit grateful.
    If we provide help...we are involved. We should give nothing. All we should do is hope for the best outcome without getting the least bit involved. We don't know who the rebel groups are or if they harbor any ill-will towards us...this is a Syrian battle...they must fight...it is not ours to win.
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    re: US suspects Syria used chemical weapons [W:284]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Regardless who wins, if we get involved, we will be classed by the zealots as an enemy, and invite more 9/11 type incidents. Even the winner is not going to want their people to think they are grateful to us. They have too many religious zealots against anyone who isn't of their faith.

    We need a clear reason to be involved, else stay out.
    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    If we provide help...we are involved. We should give nothing. All we should do is hope for the best outcome without getting the least bit involved. We don't know who the rebel groups are or if they harbor any ill-will towards us...this is a Syrian battle...they must fight...it is not ours to win.
    Among Sunni Muslims this is a big deal. They are going to win, and we want to be part of that. The Shia (Iran, Hezbollah) are going to lose. We want that to happen. A weaker Hezbollah in Lebanon makes Israel feel safer and decreases the likelihood of middle east war. We want that too. In ROI terms we stand to gain 10 to 1. It's worth doing.
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