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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    So you're against science now?
    Nope, but I'm definitely against non-sequiturs.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    So you're against science now?

    Traditions are an important source of public standards. The tradition of marriage is one of the oldest and most trusted institutions in the history of mankind for a reason. Children do best when raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household.



    So not only are you against science, you're against historical fact as well.

    Gay marriage isn't real marriage and it never will be. It serves no real purpose socially or economically to society. Marriage has always meant man + woman. Not man + ? or woman + ?. If gays are allowed the special right to change the definition of marriage to fit their sexual behavior (or because they want benefits), then other groups are going to want the same "right" as well. Sisters marrying sisters. Brothers marrying brothers. Fathers marrying adult sons. Group Marriage. Whose "right to marry" would you discriminate against?
    Articulate harm caused to you by two men marrying.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    If you can point to clear evidence of how same sex marriage has been harmful to society or to other marriages, then I will be happy to reconsider my position. Your side has had decades to make the case that same sex marriage is harmful and you have failed on every occasion.

    I want marriage, not for me, but for my family. Any children I have would benefit from it. Is it not selfish of you to deprive children of gays the benefits of having married parents?
    How about if you can show me where this experiment has been around long enough to be studied as to its harm versus benefit to society. If not, keep to your isolated pockets and show us, the rest, that you do us no harm, the FDA model perhaps, then we will take your proposal under consideration. I don't think we need you to reconsider your position if you do not understand that which has already been given. We just need the majority...

    And most eventually come around to understanding logic... and what's best.

    Myself, I would rather like to preclude the ever having to deprive gay parents being parents. Sorry if it hurts feelings, but the truth can be painful...I do not think it the best for society nor the children to be put in that position... now that is what would truly be really selfish... if you are actually, genuinely looking out for what is best for the child and not for you, the parent. So, yes, I would like them to have married parents as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Marriage has always meant man + woman

    It is one of the oldest widespread notions of a tradition and institution in human history
    Ahem...

    Fallacy: Appeal to Tradition
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    How about if you can show me where this experiment has been around long enough to be studied as to its harm versus benefit to society. If not, keep to your isolated pockets and show us, the rest, that you do us no harm, the FDA model perhaps, then we will take your proposal under consideration. I don't think we need you to reconsider your position if you do not understand that which has already been given. We just need the majority...
    Okey dokes. I'll just call up the Gay Mafia and we will get right on rolling back the ol' Gay Agenda until you are satisfied that two dudes or two girls getting married won't end life as we know it.

    Myself, I would rather like to preclude the ever having to deprive gay parents being parents. Sorry if it hurts feelings, but the truth can be painful...I do not think it the best for society nor the children to be put in that position... now that is what would truly be really selfish... if you are actually, genuinely looking out for what is best for the child and not for you, the parent. So, yes, I would like them to have married parents as well.
    Ah, so you are one of those types!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Articulate harm caused to you by two men marrying.
    If he could have done it, he would have. His cop-out is that it hasn't been around long enough to demonstrate harm.

    Apparently, since he has some sort of authority on the issue, we cannot have same sex marriage until we demonstrate it is not harmful and at the same time he argues we cannot demonstrate it isn't harmful until we have it.

    Funny how social conservative logic always works out to keep things exactly the same.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Okey dokes. I'll just call up the Gay Mafia and we will get right on rolling back the ol' Gay Agenda until you are satisfied that two dudes or two girls getting married won't end life as we know it.
    Well, you just let us know when you got that all accomplished, we can look at the data ... my people will get in contact with your people. Problem solved.



    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Ah, so you are one of those types!
    Yes, just one of those free thinking, free speaking, moral and looking out for the short and long term good of my society types? Sure. Not cowed by those wanting to use just the sort of subtle and not so subtle intimidation you are attempting right there to keep people from saying exactly, squarely, what needs to be said. Your side is BOLD enough to assert special rights when there is no right nor obligation for society to give it and for which society recieves nothing but a kick in the teeth in return. Tolerance is not enough for "you types".

    Beyond acceptance even, we have to condone and support your lifestyle to the detriment of the rest of society...think nobody is suppose to say that out loud? Must have me confused with the Neville Chamberlain types, the appeasers in this culture war for the very survival of my nation.

    So, yeah, I am.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Dodge noted

    Gay Marriage is not a superior form of marriage. It is pretend marriage. An inferior form of marriage.

    Fail

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Dodge noted

    Gay Marriage is not a superior form of marriage. It is pretend marriage. An inferior form of marriage.

    Fail
    And that's what's great about this country: you're allowed to have that opinion.

    Amusing side note: there was once a debater who argued, on this site or another, that all the states that approved gay marriage were "fake states." Really.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And that's what's great about this country: you're allowed to have that opinion.

    Amusing side note: there was once a debater who argued, on this site or another, that all the states that approved gay marriage were "fake states." Really.
    IMO, straight marriages are a failed social experiment. 50% end in divorce, many cheat on their spouses, or abuse them or their children.

    It's obvious that the heterosexual lifestyle is incompatible with marriage
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