Watch the "pathetic" nonsense, especially when you've failed your point.
Now, when pushed too hard and fast, many are ready to push back as hard or harder.
And lets see some of this definitive science you claim.
Show me where I am wrong.
And yet you want to just throw out some obscure reference to a court ruling and expect me to omnisciently [thanks for the compliment anyhow ] know what silliness of which you speak, eh? Cite or don't bother mentioning, please.
Well, lets see, you can go to any of the 31 states that have laws against same sex marriage... that would be against gay culture would it not? Or are you saying that those enhance gay culture do you? Nice. DOMA, that help gay culture does it?
Then globally.....1871 – Homosexuality is criminalized throughout the German Empire by Paragraph 175 of the Reich Criminal Code, 1886 – In England, the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, outlawing sexual relations between men, 1895 – The trial of Oscar Wilde results in his being prosecuted under the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 for "gross indecency" and sentenced to two years hard labor in prison, 1903 – In New York on 21 February 1903, New York police conducted the first United States recorded raid on a gay bathhouse, the Ariston Hotel Baths. 26 men were arrested and 12 brought to trial on sodomy charges; 7 men received sentences ranging from 4 to 20 years in prison
Am reminded of the story of the man hitting himself in the head with a ball-peen hammer... and when approached, asked why he was doing it, he replied, "'cause it feels soooooo good when I stop."
This is where I stop... ciao...
just a good faith suggestion: recognize the spell checker here, could be of great assistance...
There is nothing absurd about it at all. You have to try and objectify it as absurd because you can't refute it. Sisters marrying each other. Brothers marrying each other, ect can make the exact same argument gays are making for "marriage". Why? Because Gay "Marriage" trivializes marriage. Your inability to logically discuss the issue and falling back on emotional arguments only makes those irrefutable facts stronger. You're also having to fall back on another strawman, which is the argument that marriage is about sex. That's a false premise. The institution of marriage, the oldest notion of a tradition in human history, as always been about children. Bringing the opposite sexes together in a single union to procreate and continue to existence of the human race. Marriage has never been about what hole you put it in.Like always you delve into absurdity when you decide to go somewhere. I do however, agree that family members should be allowed special legal responsibilities like shared health care, legal decision making in the case of injury, hospital visitation rights, shared wealth and inheritance, and most of the things a marriage contract legally deals with. Oh, and yes family members already have methods of having those partnerships in a legal sense. What you are talking about stopping is sexual relations which the marriage contract actually does little about considering you are allowed to have sexual relations without a marriage contract, but yet things like sex with a child are illegal no matter what. So you are arguing a completely different point and laws that do not connect with each other. Being married does not make sex automatically legal considering you can have a rape of a spouse.
So do you have any real points, or are we just going to hear more about you not being a bigot.
Here are the facts, rights are most often not absolute.
Right now in my state, for example, a heterosexual man has the exact same rights and restrictions in the law as a homosexual man, no less and no more. That is called equal protection under the law. FACT.
Fact: We both can marry legally. We can both marry under the exact same circumstances [ I can marry a woman who is of age, consenting...so can he ]. Able to prove that wrong?
He cannot marry, in my state, another man. Neither can I. Equal? Exactly equal, yes.
I also cannot marry my father, my mother, my sisters, my brothers, my daughters, my sons or any combination of those, I cannot marry more than one person at a time, etc... neither can he. We have the exact same rights and we have the exact same restrictions. Prove that wrong. FACTS.
Exactly Equal Protection under the law for the both of us, in my state.
i totally agree, your point did NOT matter :LMAO: you owned yourself again
1b.) i didnt state my opinion, wrong again, i pointed out that fact that you posted opinion and nothing else. This point fails.
2.) we dont have equal rights, so again this point fails cause its based off a false premise. THis point fails.
2a.) another lie, why do you lie so much, nobody falls for it, it hasnt worked yet so why do you think it will work now. This point fails
4.) holy cow could you be anymore dishonest. You said it was illegal to be homosexual then you said gay culture is illegal. You said thats they way it was in the past. SO i asked you to prove it and sight the laws and you sight the fact we dont have equal rights and gays cant marry?????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sorry that doesnt make homsexuality of gay culture illegal
next you qoue a law in england that is meaningless to me because i did bring up the US ans have been doing so
after that you quote a 1950 SODOMY law . . . . . SODOMY
NEWS flash, sodomy is also heterosexual its anal or oral sex WOW more self ownage you just did to yourself
you lose again, this point fails
5.) facts already proved you wrong, denial wont help you. this point fails
6.) please stop with the lying and nonsense i have mentioned them earlier in this thread or in others, knock it off LOL. This point fails
7.) this point failed dude, deflecting wont change it. Your analogy was a complete bust. This point failed
your analogy failed it takes rights away implying anything else is dishonest
again i accept your submission, facts easily defeat those that are dishonest and you bailing out when every argument you brought up got destroyed and instead trying failed insults shows how desperate and how made you lost.
Its ok, lick your wounds and come back when you have ONE single point or facts that stands.
thanks for playing, you lose. do you REALLY want links to the rullings again because i will GLADLY provide them. I believe Connecticut, Massachusetts and Iowa are the 3. the others i think were were popular vote or legislative vote
2.) now to dismantle your "facts" of whcih you claimed that we have EQUAL rights.
this will be so easy.
first off there are supreme court justices that disagree and have rule that what you state is NOT equal i think its Connecticut, Massachusetts and Iowa
next, which is BRILLIANT but also very true and a indirect way to argue is GENDER discrimination which has come up in some cases.
man can marry woman
woman cant marry woman
gender discrimination and NOT equal
bye bye to your "facts"
so you are wrong sir, at best you saying its equal is nothign more than your opinion and its simply disingenuous to even think its equal.