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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    then simply prove your lie, prove it will never be real marriage i cant wait. Teach me a lesson and FACTUALLY prove it wont be real marriage

    ready GO!
    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage

    It's pretend marriage

    Marriage has never meant anything other than man + woman. Not my problem you are unable to deal with facts so you're reduced to beclowning yourself with emotional histrionics

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    So can a father marry his son because they want the "security marriage provides"

    Where does your reasoning stop? Who would you exclude from having the "security marriage provides"?
    Incest is illegal in every state. Sodomy is not illegal. As such, your argument is ridiculous and makes you look the same.

    Furthermore, why would a father and son even want to marry? That would keep them from being able to marry when they found a partner they loved. It also doesn't make sense because marriage basically establishes "next of kin" status. If you are already kin then why would you need the rights and protections of marriage? Your argument shows you have an extremely poor understanding of what marriage is and what it does.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage

    It's pretend marriage

    Marriage has never meant anything other than man + woman. Not my problem you are unable to deal with facts so you're reduced to beclowning yourself with emotional histrionics
    Your argument is both factually and historically inaccurate...but meh...it doesn't seem like you are arguing for the sake of truth.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It wasn't about the title. It was about the rights and protections. There has never been and never will be a civil union that offers the same rights and protections as marriage. Feel free to entertain the delusion that people who oppose same sex marriage will embrace such an idea as creating civil unions with all the same rights as marriage for gays, but it is nothing more than a delusion.
    You're all over the map. When it suits you you're not after equality and then you are (that's what equal "rights and protections" are). You aren't after social acceptance, then you are - that's what wanting SSM to be accepted by society is.

    You say that civil unions now don't offer the same rights and protections, but when I ask you why "your side" has never sought that, you say it's impossible to do. Where clearly it IS possible with simple legislation. It was more possible federally before DOMA, but when I say DOMA was a reaction to your side's overreach, you deny that. But still possible.

    You SAY you don't need the title, but here you are threatening to take your toys and move to another country if you can't have the title. Which is it?

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage

    It's pretend marriage

    Marriage has never meant anything other than man + woman. Not my problem you are unable to deal with facts so you're reduced to beclowning yourself with emotional histrionics
    its funny you calim me emotional, your the only one upset around here, im just laughing at you

    you keep repeating this lie and yet you cant provide any fact to support your false claim.

    please do so know, just prove it!, teach me a lesson and prove me wrong!
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    "Incest is illegal in every state. Sodomy is not illegal. As such, your argument is ridiculous and makes you look the same. "

    Why should it be between consenting adults. An please, don't give that old it causes health issues. So does drinking, smoking, over eating and drugs.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Your argument is both factually and historically inaccurate...but meh...it doesn't seem like you are arguing for the sake of truth.
    Okay, well then name any country in history, any society, that has defined marriage other than between man and woman (sometimes women). Show your stuff and prove the inaccuracy.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're all over the map. When it suits you you're not after equality and then you are (that's what equal "rights and protections" are). You aren't after social acceptance, then you are - that's what wanting SSM to be accepted by society is.

    You say that civil unions now don't offer the same rights and protections, but when I ask you why "your side" has never sought that, you say it's impossible to do. Where clearly it IS possible with simple legislation. It was more possible federally before DOMA, but when I say DOMA was a reaction to your side's overreach, you deny that. But still possible.

    You SAY you don't need the title, but here you are threatening to take your toys and move to another country if you can't have the title. Which is it?
    If civil unions with all the same rights and protections of marriage were established for same sex couples nationwide then I would be content. I would not care about the title of "marriage" because I could call it whatever I wanted, and I wouldn't care if the title was reserved for heterosexual couples.

    However, I know that will never happen. I have debated with people on "your side" who vehemently argue any form of civil union is just marriage by another name, even those which have limited rights and protections.

    I could care less about the ideological arguments of equality. I want a husband and children. I want to know that if anything happens to me, that my children and husband will be taken care of just as if I were married to a wife. I want the opportunity to build a relationship with all the stability of a heterosexually married couple so that my children will all the greatest opportunity to thrive. I can do that with marriage or with civil unions with all the rights of marriage. The title is irrelevant.

    Go to a conservative forum and argue your case, and then see if your "solution" is really realistic. Just try it. I think you are the one with the blinders on.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Okay, well then name any country in history, any society, that has defined marriage other than between man and woman (sometimes women). Show your stuff and prove the inaccuracy.
    As I said before. Two different Roman emperors have married men. The Romans even passed a law banning the practice of same sex marriage as Christianity became prevalent. Why would they pass a law for a practice unless it was being practiced?

    In fact, same sex marriage between women was not uncommon in parts of Asia and South America before Christianity spread to those parts.

    Hell, you can find that basic kind of stuff out on wikipedia for crying out loud. It isn't hard, you just have no interest in doing so because you don't care about the truth.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    "Incest is illegal in every state. Sodomy is not illegal. As such, your argument is ridiculous and makes you look the same. "

    Why should it be between consenting adults. An please, don't give that old it causes health issues. So does drinking, smoking, over eating and drugs.
    Are you advocating for making incest legal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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