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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Why in the world do you think that? How is it that they cannot be made equal? We're talking in a strictly legal sense here you understand that, right? You cannot successfully legislate social acceptance. Even if we could, that's a very dangerous path to follow.
    Why do you think we care about acceptance from the "civil unions only" crowd? Most of this group is lying when they act like they've always been for gay rights, so i don't think i will start caring now. Generally they suddenly wish to compromise the problem away, now that it's a lost cause.

    So why not civil unions? It's more fun watching the crying about it, and see: 'colored' drinking fountains. France itself is a good example, since they had civil unions, but adoption rights are a huge part of why this was necessary.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Good question...
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I don't know why you're asking me that but I've been there twice for a total of 5 weeks, mainly the UK and Italy. I thought I was clear that I wasn't criticizing Europe; I was criticizing some Americans perception of Europe.
    It really says a lot about you that you chose to answer the second question,and not the first.

    So MPG,how the eff do you know what's on the minds of your fellow Americans,hmmm?

    It was a simple request, (i'e. provide a link that backs up your statement),and you deliberately ignored it.
    Do you have the ability to read other peoples minds?
    Are you using a crystal ball or reading tea leaves?
    Or are you one of those people who actually are conceited enough to think their opinions or beliefs ultimately matters to the Universe at whole?


    Here we had an opportunity for people here (and that includes you) to condemn those that commit a crime (rioting)and commit violence, (rioting) and quite a lot of the Anti-SSM crowd just refused to do so. Why don't those that read this go through this thread and count how many people either dismiss what happened in France,or tried to justify it.Go one,count how many of them have come out and said ",the Anti-SSM crowd in France was wrong for rioting".

    Mark my words,what happened in France is only the Harbinger of things to come.
    And it is going to come here to America sooner than anyone thinks/
    One only has to comb through the archives here at the other SSM threads to see what the uber religious,the Social Conservatives,and the psuedo-libertarians have planned for our country once SSM becomes legal nation wide.
    See how many of them are actually fanning the flames here on DebatePolitics.

    The numbers may shock you.

    Somehow,despite what Jesus himself may feel about homosexuality,I think he would have at least had the guts to say "rioting was wrong of them".
    But then again,there maybe many here who SAY they are Christian,but quite a number of people here aren't quite as good at BEING Christian as they like to think they are.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage

    It never will be
    That's your opinion.Thank you for sharing,but please understand if the rest of humanity prefers not to let you do our thinking for us.You're just not that important to the Universe that we automatically have to agree with you.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    They could be amended to do so. However, this has never been what the LGBT lobby has pushed for.

    They want "marriage," and won't stand for anything less.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I can just about guarantee you that the issue wouldn't be anywhere near the ****storm it is today if homosexuals had simply used the former tactic. Again, the fact of the matter is that they won't use such non-confrontational means precisely because "equal rights" aren't what they're really after.
    And you can see what goes on in alternate realities hows?
    How much money are you willing to back that "guarantee" with?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    They want recognition and validation from society at large.
    So did my black uncle and white aunt did in 1963,so whats you point?


    And that is a problem how to you?What the eff do you care what two men or two women do with there lives?
    Of all the problems going on in this planet,and this is the one you choose to expend energy on addressing?
    What gay people do and say in their lives?
    waht words they chose to use?
    That's really THAT important to you?

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Isn't that the reasoning behind every riot?

    I'd wish they would do this in California over prop 8, not because of gay marriage/civil unions but over the circumvention of the Tenth Amendment and the overall slap in the face to democracy.
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    I find it interesting that people bring up popular opinion only when it coincides with their own viewpoint. No one ever does that when popular opinion is against them.
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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Why in the world do you think that? How is it that they cannot be made equal? We're talking in a strictly legal sense here you understand that, right? You cannot successfully legislate social acceptance. Even if we could, that's a very dangerous path to follow.
    The civil unions ship sailed when 20 states passed Constitutional bans on them. Can you name one state that has repealed such a ban in a good faith attempt to "compromise"? You are right about one thing...you cannot legislate social acceptance. But social acceptance does come as more people see it is safe to come out to their family and friends because of legislation that protects gays.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    They could be amended to do so. However, this has never been what the LGBT lobby has pushed for.

    They want "marriage," and won't stand for anything less.

    I can just about guarantee you that the issue wouldn't be anywhere near the ****storm it is today if homosexuals had simply used the former tactic. Again, the fact of the matter is that they won't use such non-confrontational means precisely because "equal rights" aren't what they're really after.

    They want recognition and validation from society at large.
    Bull! Do not tell me what I want. I did not pass 20some some Constitutional bans on civil unions. I did not pass laws in some states that made it so only "married" couples could adopt children. I did not craft it so the federal government does not recognize civil unions. That path was closed off by YOUR side and it is incredibly dishonest to pretend it was not. I would have been happy with civil unions if they had ever been feasible or equal.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gay Marriage isn't real marriage

    It never will be
    Sure it will be. It's only a matter of time before same-sex couples will be allowed to marry.

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    Re: Paris Riots After Gay Marriage Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What the **** is this?

    You ever hear of a dissenting paragraph or do you just number ****?

    Thank God for our Godless progressive public schools - they'll just number dissent attributes to an individuals opinion - then laugh at the idiots that can type and come up with a cognitive argument.... So much for the ****ing English language.
    You've nailed it. They've taught these children 'self esteem' and that's about it. This is a consequence of the leftist approach to educating children where their 'feelings' count more than knowledge. And of course it's difficult to convince any well educated person that leftism is good for an individual or the country, which is largely why they turn out these cookie cutter children who can never think for themselves.

    Half of U.S. schools fail federal standards

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