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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

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    I'm curious...just where exactly did Obama compromise with Republicans/Conservatives on in Obamacare?
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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm curious...just where exactly did Obama compromise with Republicans/Conservatives on in Obamacare?
    He did not. They didn't even consider any ideas put forth by the (R)'s.
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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Quite the contrary. His legislation, like Bush's legislation, is very protective of "Big Pharma". That's why we pay these utterly ridiculous prices for medication that yoi can buy in other countries for a fraction of the US price and yet Medicare can not negotiate prices.
    Maybe those countries need to pay up. Pharma does need to be a healthy sector in order to encourage R&D into the field. I think the solution is to allow Americans to import drugs from other countries. That would lead to US suppliers would be buying up all of their lower cost drugs to resell at a higher price in the US. That means their prices would need to go up to counter the short fall and our prices would go down as a result of increased competition.

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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I don't get it !!!!!

    He gave Bush and republican's some nice remarks and yet you still criticize the guy????

    What did he say that bother you? Hell if anyone should be bothered is democrats like myself.
    He's blamed all his failures on Bush for 4+ years now

    You think just because he reads a few lines from a speech that says a "few nice things about him" that all of sudden we're going to forget the malicious and dishonest way Regressives have treated Bush for more than a decade?

    Not going to happen

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    Like i have said previously, if Obama discovered the cure for cancer, he'd be criticized.
    If Obama was caught eating babies and having sex with corpses you'd blame it on Bush and the GOP

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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Actually, I agree with you and one of my disappointments was that the USG has prohibited this to support the ludicrous pricing we have now.

    Do you know that Plavix sells for $5 a pill? A common heart medication that Doctors tend to prescribe not realizing it isn't on the formulary. You can (illegally) buy Indian made copies through Canadian "pharmacies" for about $1. But why should you have to choose between breaking the law and taking affordable medication?

    I do recognize the costs of R&D. It costs almost nothing to make a medication, all of it is R&D, packaging, record keeping and advertising. But how about some balance in this? Some of these medications are frivilous but some are essential. Sure, you can be an informed consumer and in some cases generics can be found that allow you to buy affordably. But the Doctors don't care, they get free samples of, say, Ambien and they write a script and you pay $6 because you don't know that Zolpiden is exactly the same thing and is under $1. So some people are subsidizing other people out of ignorance. If foreign companies could openly market their products, you'd see Ambien at $1, not $6. It's not a good system and I resent that Bush and Obama have knowingly supported this.






    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Maybe those countries need to pay up. Pharma does need to be a healthy sector in order to encourage R&D into the field. I think the solution is to allow Americans to import drugs from other countries. That would lead to US suppliers would be buying up all of their lower cost drugs to resell at a higher price in the US. That means their prices would need to go up to counter the short fall and our prices would go down as a result of increased competition.

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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Actually, I agree with you and one of my disappointments was that the USG has prohibited this to support the ludicrous pricing we have now.

    Do you know that Plavix sells for $5 a pill? A common heart medication that Doctors tend to prescribe not realizing it isn't on the formulary. You can (illegally) buy Indian made copies through Canadian "pharmacies" for about $1. But why should you have to choose between breaking the law and taking affordable medication?

    I do recognize the costs of R&D. It costs almost nothing to make a medication, all of it is R&D, packaging, record keeping and advertising. But how about some balance in this? Some of these medications are frivilous but some are essential. Sure, you can be an informed consumer and in some cases generics can be found that allow you to buy affordably. But the Doctors don't care, they get free samples of, say, Ambien and they write a script and you pay $6 because you don't know that Zolpiden is exactly the same thing and is under $1. So some people are subsidizing other people out of ignorance. If foreign companies could openly market their products, you'd see Ambien at $1, not $6. It's not a good system and I resent that Bush and Obama have knowingly supported this.
    Generic Plavix is now available and has been for about a year or so...
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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    My view of Obama would skyrocket if he truly reaches out to the GOP and becomes less of a partisan and more of a reasonable moderate.
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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Thanks. I had my heart surgery in 2011 and that was not the case then. So, I suppose anecdotal evidence has failed in this case. 40 each for clopidogrel - very good. Maybe I'll start taking them again although I'm reluctant because I have 3 cats and even the slightest scratch bleeds like your throat was cut.


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    Generic Plavix is now available and has been for about a year or so...

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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Thanks. I had my heart surgery in 2011 and that was not the case then. So, I suppose anecdotal evidence has failed in this case. 40 each for clopidogrel - very good. Maybe I'll start taking them again although I'm reluctant because I have 3 cats and even the slightest scratch bleeds like your throat was cut.
    That's more of an age issue, and I understand...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Obama Promises to "Reach Out" to GOP, Praises George Bush

    I listened to the speeches live today on my way down the road coming home, and I thought as the three highly political, and partisan Presidents, Carter, Clinton, and Obama, that they were measured, and managed overall to keep in the spirit of the opening of the library...I didn't hear anything too awful.
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