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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    I wonder if the rest of the senate will come out as idiots?
    That has already been proven.
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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because most of your fellow mob members rather like being able to submit legislation for a direct vote of the people. Sounds like you're against the initiative process. You also against citizens petitioning their government?

    There's another wonderful thing about this union of states we have, there are states where the initiative process is not in place.
    Personally, I am very much against the initiative process because I honestly believe people in large numbers are stupid. They don't understand law, or how the system works and end up screwing up that system just because they want a direct say. We were not set up as a direct democracy, but as a republic. Republics have representatives for a reason and those representatives should not be overridden by mobs who don't really know what's going on.
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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have never figured out why people have to have some big dramatic coming out. The same people who have to pronounce to the world they are gay are usually the same ones who say crap like "it is none of your business who I sleep with". As long as they can give legal consent and don't share your DNA, I don't care who you sit in a tree with K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
    In this case, it was him hearing a bunch of his fellow legislators talk vile things about people like him. He was tired of it. It happens all the time. People will only take so much trash talk, then they start standing up for themselves.

    It is no different than a person who holds certain beliefs, but that keeps those beliefs private and then has to listen to others talk trash about those beliefs in front of them because they don't know that the other person holds those beliefs. It is a good way to teach people a little humility and discretion.
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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have never figured out why people have to have some big dramatic coming out. The same people who have to pronounce to the world they are gay are usually the same ones who say crap like "it is none of your business who I sleep with". As long as they can give legal consent and don't share your DNA, I don't care who you sit in a tree with K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
    It is a huge deal. How do you just come home to mom and dad with a same sex lover or partner? Many times LGBTQ kids are rejected. Heterosexuals don't get that part. You walk in with an opposite sex partner and no one blinks. So yeah there is a coming out because the person coming out has to deal with all the fall out.
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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have never figured out why people have to have some big dramatic coming out. The same people who have to pronounce to the world they are gay are usually the same ones who say crap like "it is none of your business who I sleep with". As long as they can give legal consent and don't share your DNA, I don't care who you sit in a tree with K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
    I tend to view homosexuality a fad, much for this reason.

    It seems less about genuine affection for same sex then being caught up in an ultra liberal brand of politics.

    I'm not saying all gays are doing it because it's currently the cool thing to do in liberal circles but I think most do.
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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Personally, I am very much against the initiative process because I honestly believe people in large numbers are stupid. They don't understand law, or how the system works and end up screwing up that system just because they want a direct say. We were not set up as a direct democracy, but as a republic. Republics have representatives for a reason and those representatives should not be overridden by mobs who don't really know what's going on.
    If you think the masses are too stupid then why settle for a republic? A benevolent dictatorship is what you desire with you being just another of the stupid masses.

    I suspect you're only against the initiative process because the voting majority usually decides against what you want personally. And why would you trust your own opinion, being part of the stupid masses and all?

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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    In this case, it was him hearing a bunch of his fellow legislators talk vile things about people like him. He was tired of it. It happens all the time. People will only take so much trash talk, then they start standing up for themselves.

    It is no different than a person who holds certain beliefs, but that keeps those beliefs private and then has to listen to others talk trash about those beliefs in front of them because they don't know that the other person holds those beliefs. It is a good way to teach people a little humility and discretion.
    Meh, he's a politician and was running for office the same election where the public voted this into the state's constitution. There's a few possible reasons why he wouldn't have spoken out at the time, the most obvious of which (Occam's Razor) is that it wasn't to his political advantage to do so. Now he feels it is. We'll see if he was right come the next election.

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    Re: NV Senator comes out as gay

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you think the masses are too stupid then why settle for a republic? A benevolent dictatorship is what you desire with you being just another of the stupid masses.

    I suspect you're only against the initiative process because the voting majority usually decides against what you want personally. And why would you trust your own opinion, being part of the stupid masses and all?
    You would be wrong. I am against the initiative process because there a many times when it causes huge budgeting problems within states, especially California. For example, many things will get put on the ballot in CA for the government to pay for, but then the legislature is stuck deciding how it gets paid for because the only reason it got approved was because of stupid people who can't budget their own finances let alone an entire state's. (And I don't even vote or pay taxes here in CA, despite living here.)
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