Homeless Bill Of Rights Passes CA Legislative Committee

[The Prof]

An amended version of a bill that would extend new protections to California's homeless population cleared the Assembly Judiciary Committee on Tuesday morning.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, framed Assembly Bill 5 as an attempt to create a statewide baseline of homeless civil rights, citing a proliferation of municipal ordinances cracking down on behavior like lying or sleeping on the sidewalk as examples of the "criminalization of poor people."

Capitol Alert: Updated homeless 'bill of rights' passes CA legislative committee

now there's an agenda item that's blipping alarmingly on every california mom's and pop's radar screen---a homeless bill of rights

gotta target those uppity and independent minded townies whose overweening audacity leads them to assume some kinda local leadership over issues they're experiencing, y'know, in their neighborhoods

sacto, decades of decisions have demonstrated beyond doubt, always knows best

especially level headed legists like tom-kiss-my-faggot-ass-ammiano

no more ordinances against panhandling or sleeping on sidewalks without first satisfying the ammianos that you've got a low UE, you've got ready public housing and cash assistance

you must compile exact statistics for the presidia to count up---how many loiterings, how many obstructions of the public

and what color are the people you're moving

and, of course, there's the inevitable exposure of public business to open litigation

not exactly what an economy in recession requires

no wonder so many are moving to texas

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States

meanwhile, yesterday

Las Vegas Hospital Accused of Dumping Psychiatric Patients in California | NBC Southern California

give us your dirty, deadbeat, deranged

your drugged out masses yearning to pee free

 

[poweRob]

Always funny when such rants come from someone who backs the party of uber Christianity.

 

[Black Dog]

Always funny when such rants come from someone who backs the party of uber Christianity.

Yea beat that damn strawman to death.

 

[The Prof]

detroit, which was taken over by the state in march, is doing the same thing

april 18: Detroit Police Dumping Homeless Outside City « CBS Detroit

shh...

don't tell ammiano

 

[specklebang]

Yeah, we're not very homeless friendly here. Since CA is I think it makes sense for us to ship them there. Better weather and much more welfare and medical aid.

meanwhile, yesterday

Las Vegas Hospital Accused of Dumping Psychiatric Patients in California | NBC Southern California

give us your dirty, deadbeat, deranged

your drugged out masses yearning to pee free

 

[poweRob]

Yea beat that damn strawman to death.

meh... I'll back off now seeing how you rode in on your white horse and are here to resuscitate him. Please sir, proceed with the mouth to mouth.

 

[Black Dog]

meh... I'll back off now seeing how you rode in on your white horse and are here to resuscitate him. Please sir, proceed with the mouth to mouth.

It had nothing to do with what he said... It was off topic a personal attack and a strawman to boot. I did not have to do anything. A blind man several hundred feet away could have seen it.

Back on topic...

It's a damn shame whats going on with homeless people, but a bill of rights?

 

[poweRob]

It had nothing to do with what he said... It was off topic a personal attack and a strawman to boot. I did not have to do anything. A blind man several hundred feet away could have seen it.

No laughing today eh? This must be srs biznus.

Back on topic...

It's a damn shame whats going on with homeless people, but a bill of rights?

Dude in the OP was lining up with the "**** 'em" attitude towards the poor and homeless. I don't think what I said was that far of a stretch. That being said, believe it or not I pretty much agree with you. Although I'm not familiar enough with the bill to say if it's too much and such. I do at least like the idea that they intend to address the issue rather than sweep them under the rug as society is want to do generally.

 

[Perotista]

Capitol Alert: Updated homeless 'bill of rights' passes CA legislative committee

now there's an agenda item that's blipping alarmingly on every california mom's and pop's radar screen---a homeless bill of rights

gotta target those uppity and independent minded townies whose overweening audacity leads them to assume some kinda local leadership over issues they're experiencing, y'know, in their neighborhoods

sacto, decades of decisions have demonstrated beyond doubt, always knows best

especially level headed legists like tom-kiss-my-faggot-ass-ammiano

no more ordinances against panhandling or sleeping on sidewalks without first satisfying the ammianos that you've got a low UE, you've got ready public housing and cash assistance

you must compile exact statistics for the presidia to count up---how many loiterings, how many obstructions of the public

and what color are the people you're moving

and, of course, there's the inevitable exposure of public business to open litigation

not exactly what an economy in recession requires

no wonder so many are moving to texas

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States

meanwhile, yesterday

Las Vegas Hospital Accused of Dumping Psychiatric Patients in California | NBC Southern California

give us your dirty, deadbeat, deranged

your drugged out masses yearning to pee free

I have no doubts of people and business's for that matter are leaving California, that was shown in the 2010 census as for the first time in that states history, California failed to increase their congressional delegation. The census also prophesied that California would start losing electoral votes (read congressmen) beginning in 2010.

 

[Black Dog]

No laughing today eh? This must be srs biznus.

I thought you would appreciate my blind man comment?

Dude in the OP was lining up with the "**** 'em" attitude towards the poor and homeless. I don't think what I said was that far of a stretch.

Rob it had nothing to do with anything he said. You were attacking him, personalty, not his opinion which I agree is ignorant.

That being said, believe it or not I pretty much agree with you. Although I'm not familiar enough with the bill to say if it's too much and such. I do at least like the idea that they intend to address the issue rather than sweep them under the rug as society is want to do generally.

Well I was homeless for about a year. I know the problems that they deal with every day, so I know the situation. I just think a bill of rights is, just over the top.

 

[mtm1963]

what's new from cali?

nothing.

 

[poweRob]

Rob it had nothing to do with anything he said. You were attacking him, personalty, not his opinion which I agree is ignorant.

Come on now.. I didn't call him any names or say he was stupid or anything like that. It's not like I really went after the dude. Just compared his ridiculous position he has staked out while at the same time politically standing in a post practically submerged in evangelicals. Alls he had to do was say, "man... I'm not a Christian" and I'd have been completely pwned.

Well I was homeless for about a year. I know the problems that they deal with every day, so I know the situation. I just think a bill of rights is, just over the top.

I think setting forth a bill of rights is probably more just a way to stablize the laws so that one county doesn't shove their problem onto the next until that county makes life even ****tier for them and they go to the next county. I think it's a step towards "lets address the problem" rather than just having folks rearrange the chairs on the titanic.

Also... you have an interesting perspective with your past of having been homeless. Any interesting stories about it?

 

[The Prof]

what's new from cali?

cnn: California high-speed rail to nowhere? – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

wapo: California's high-speed rail to nowhere - Washington Post

huffpo: California High-Speed Rail: A Bridge To Nowhere?

telegraph: Buyers' remorse for California's 'bullet train to nowhere' - Telegraph

Ambitious plans for a fast track linking Los Angeles and San Francisco at speeds of up to 220mph in just over two-and-a-half hours were slimly approved by 53 per cent in a statewide ballot in 2008. That allowed the state to raise $10 billion from bonds and secured an injection of $3.5 billion in stimulus money from the Obama administration. There is currently no direct train route between the two.

Construction is expected to begin later this year in the middle of California's Central Valley near Merced, a town of 80,000 people known for having one of the highest home foreclosure rates in America.

The plan calls for around 300 miles of track to be laid south from there over the next 10 years to reach the northern outskirts of Los Angeles. A northern link from the Central Valley to San Francisco would not be completed until 2028.

The project is still $54.9 billion short of what is needed, raising fears that the state will be unable to find the funds to finish later sections, and could be left with a futuristic rail line linking minor cities and farming communities.

It was initially projected to cost $45 billion and deliver passengers between the two major cities in a few hours by 2020.

Last autumn the state-run California High-Speed Rail Authority, which is overseeing it, disclosed the cost had more than doubled to $98.5 billion with a finish date of 2033.

After an outcry $30 billion was shaved off that estimate, but only by reducing the speed of the trains and using sections of existing slow track.

 

[Black Dog]

Come on now.. I didn't call him any names or say he was stupid or anything like that. It's not like I really went after the dude. Just compared his ridiculous position he has staked out while at the same time politically standing in a post practically submerged in evangelicals. Alls he had to do was say, "man... I'm not a Christian" and I'd have been completely pwned.

Rob, all I did was point out your strawman. Don't care why etc as it's not that big a deal to me.

I think setting forth a bill of rights is probably more just a way to stablize the laws so that one county doesn't shove their problem onto the next until that county makes life even ****tier for them and they go to the next county. I think it's a step towards "lets address the problem" rather than just having folks rearrange the chairs on the titanic.

Would have been simpler to recognize their rights as an individual and citizen of the US. It is just a bunch of feel good crap that will change nothing.

Also... you have an interesting perspective with your past of having been homeless. Any interesting stories about it?

He, I have quit a few. I was homeless for about a year. Nothing is more brutal than being homeless in Illinois during the winter. Don't really want to share it here. If you are really interested you can PM me and I will tell you the more interesting ones.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Why does any group of people need their own special bill of rights? Seriously, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" when applied equally to everyone pretty much nails it.

 

[Black Dog]

Why does any group of people need their own special bill of rights? Seriously, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" when applied equally to everyone pretty much nails it.

Exactly my point. Next thing you know we will have a bill of rights for animals.

 

[Zyphlin]

Moderator's Warning:

Let's talk topic, not rules folks

 

[apdst]

Nevermind

 

[TheNextEra]

Why does any group of people need their own special bill of rights? Seriously, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" when applied equally to everyone pretty much nails it.

I don't think it is a "bill of rights" really, it is just laws that protect homeless people from being harrassed by law enforcement or even scooped up and dropped off in another state just because of their situation of being homeless. I think it's a poor choice of words to call it a "homeless bill of rights" IMO.

 

[Fishstyx]

Think the cities and towns where the lawmakers that vote for this live should designate the easements near their property as a "Homeless Sanctuary Zones." And posts signs that contain this "Bill of Rights."